I have thus far refrained from commenting in any significant way on the unrest in Minnesota, simply because I am not in the US any longer, and what happens there is of significantly lesser concern to me now than it used to be. Nonetheless, with the latest spate of riots and protests concerning the conduct of Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE), I think it is worth taking at least a cursory look at what is going on.
The reason why is simple:
These riots and protests are but a taste of what is to come. Things are going to get much, MUCH worse – on all sides.
Let us start with the assertion that ICE has unlawfully used extreme force to kill at least three American citizens, who posed no threat and were not in any way endangering ICE officers.
One of those cases was the very sad incident involving one Renee Good. We now have the video, filmed from the perspective of the ICE agent at the centre , of what happened:
That video shows that, from the officer’s perspective, there seemed to be a clear danger that the vehicle’s driver was trying to run him over. One can legitimately decry the brutality of the ICE officer’s response, to be sure – indeed, the conduct of multiple ICE officers, as shown on video, tells me that the organisation as a whole has a serious issue with training its people.
This corroborates what I have heard from other sources, including firearms and unarmed combat instructors, about law enforcement officers in the US: many (not all) lack real and consistent combat training that allows them to de-escalate situations before resorting to deadly force, and do not know when lethal violence is both necessary and justified. So they use it as a matter of course.
None of that changes the fact that the shooting of Ms Good was a tragedy, and probably an avoidable one. But it was avoidable on the part of Ms Good and her “wife”, who were clearly there to taunt and mock the ICE officers, and then refused orders to stop, get out of their car, and submit to a search. This, despite the fact that the officers on the scene repeated their commands clearly and loudly.
Then there is the shooting of one Alex Pretti, over the last few days. This has generated a renewed furore, and shows little sign of dying down anytime soon. Mark Dice provided one possible view of the situation:
However, that is not the only way of looking at the situation. Multiple Trump Administration figures are arguing that Mr. Pretti had no First, Second, or Fourth Amendment rights to show up at the scene with a gun and a concealed-carry permit. Constitutionally speaking, this is absolute nonsense, as Larry Johnson points out.
Yet… if you actually watch the video concerning his detention and then shooting, it is extremely difficult to figure out what happened. Nor is it at all clear that Mr. Pretti was simply an innocent bystander who got taken down by armed goons and then shot, execution-style. The available video shows something like a scuffle taking place on the ground:
Looking at the video, though, it is very, very hard to take seriously the claim that the officers acted in self-defence, as the Trump Administration claims.
I would like to make it very clear that I am not taking sides here. I was not there. I am not a firearms expert. Nor am I a law enforcement expert. I do not pretend to know or understand what happened in these various cases. I am simply pointing out that ALL SIDES OF THE DEBATE – which is heated and raging out of control at this point – have VERY GOOD REASONS to think what they do.
The liberal lunatics out there protesting ICE removals of violent illegals are precisely that – lunatics. But they have a very good point that ICE officers are operating without any regard to Constitutional limits and safeguards on American citizens – because ICE has, in fact, arrested legitimate American citizens and tossed them into vans for “deportation”.
Quite how you can deport someone born and raised in America, with an American passport, is beyond me, but that is what ICE did.
Yet that opens up another side of the debate:
Indeed. What kind of American are they?
Are people born in America, but to non-American parents, therefore American themselves?
The only sensible answer to that has to be: “NO”. The dirt is not magic, as we on the Nationalist Right have been saying for years now. You do not become magically “American” simply by an accident of birth, so to speak.
The Hard Right has a very good point, as well, when we say that we do not care about trampling on the “rights” of illegals, especially violent ones. We want them arrested, processed, and tossed out – and if they ever try to come back in, they should be SHOT and their bodies should be left in the desert. (I once said words to that effect to my very liberal aunt in a fancy East Coast American restaurant – she still, to this day, has never recovered from that.)
But that then opens up some very uncomfortable questions about the sheer scale of mass deportations that has to happen, before some sense of equilibrium and sanity can be restored.
All of this is before we get to one thing that everyone seems to overlook. It is that ICE and CBP and FBI and all the other alphabet-soup agencies trying to enforce actual American law on the ground in Minnesota, are vastly outnumbered.
They are fighting a war – and that is what it is – against the results of years, if not decades, of mass immigration into the US. ICE agents now drive in convoys across Minneapolis, and when they get to a parking lot, they get hemmed in by SUVs and cars driven by the very liberal idiots who allowed this disaster to happen in the first place. They have to fight their way out.
In other words – they are fighting against both an invading army, and the auxiliary troops of that army.
In Minnesota, they are fighting against hordes of Somalians, who do not belong in America and should all be sent packing. This phenomenon is going to repeat itself all across the US, and in short order.
In Michigan, they will be fighting against Afghans and Arabs. In the southern states, it will be against Mexicans and Venezuelans. In large parts of the East Coast, it will be against Indians, Chinese, and huge numbers of Africans.
We are now experiencing the inevitable end result of mass migration – that, in the terminology of Martin Van Creveld, perhaps the finest living military historian today, IMMIGRATION EQUALS WAR.
All sides of this war are producing exactly the results you would expect from wartime activities. They are producing their own propaganda, daemonising their enemies, and amping up the righteousness of their cause, framing things in moral terms – because, in war, the moral beats the physical, every single time. And there is a very real danger, in my view, that the US government – which under President Trump’s Administration at least seems to be somewhat intent on enforcing Federal laws that are on the books – will cave.
This has to do with Drumpf himself. I have no idea whether we are dealing with Angry Short Trump, or the God-Emperor himself but with the first signs and stages of dementia. Either way, the TACO Principle applies with him, more than any other recent President. Ornj Boi is TERRIFIED of looking bad – his narcissism and ego cannot permit it. As such, whenever he is faced with a really hard decision, and has to truly commit, he always chickens out. So, I fear, he will do in this case as well. There are already signs this might be happening.
Given the situation is effectively a low-key war on the ground in an American state, the correct and sensible thing for President Trump to do, is to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and use the sweeping powers this gives him, to Federalise the National Guard and deploy the US military into American cities.
I do not write this idly. I KNOW what that means, at least at the simplest level. There is no going back once that happens. Having military forces deployed into American cities is precisely what the Constitution was supposed to PREVENT.
But it is too late – far too late – to stand on the Constitution any more. The people who built the American nation, have been displaced and replaced by tens of millions of non-White, non-European, non-Christian immigrants, who do not share the fundamental values and ideals that made the Constitution a sensible and powerful governing document. The only way to bring that America back, the one that built a true nation out of a vast wilderness, and became the greatest power in world history, is to restore its demographics before 1965.
This will be impossible without an actual war within America.
Again, I do not write this because I want it. I fervently wish it were not so. I do not advocate for violence – indeed, I deplore it. But I must honestly comment on what I see as the logical outcomes of people’s actions and choices.
And what I see is the same set of Soros agitators who corrupted and usurped the 2020 election, and took advantage of Drumpf’s weakness back then, coming out of the woodwork again now, looking to defeat the Federal government in the cities.
They may very well succeed.
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Don’t foresee Trump getting ahead of this. Minneapolis is a dress rehearsal. Opening nationwide this summer.
One can legitimately decry the brutality of the ICE officer’s response, to be sure – indeed, the conduct of multiple ICE officers, as shown on video, tells me that the organisation as a whole has a serious issue with training its people.
brutality? what? Renee Good was about to be arrested and she was fleeing that arrest. in the course of that attempted flight, she looked at and attempted to drive over a federal agent. no one did anything to her at all, until the officer drew his weapon.
ignore the traffic violations and disturbing the peace and whatever else Renee and her girlfriend got up to. no officer attempted to do anything to either one of these idiots UNTIL RENEE ATTEMPTED TO BLOCK THE ICE VEHICLE FROM PASSING HER. this is clear and obvious obstruction of a government agent in the course of his duties, A CRIME AT BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, which is why the two officers immediately dismounted their vehicle and were aggressively approaching her car and ordering her out. that wasn’t a “detainment”, that was a full on arrest attempt. nor was there any need for any officer to try to “de-escalate” anything there. there wasn’t anything escalating until Renee attempted to use her car as a weapon.
so far as Pretti goes, that’s prima facie excessive force just on the basis that none of the other half dozen officers involved, INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO HAD JUST DISARMED PRETTI, even drew their weapons much less fired them. Pretti was also in the middle of a valid arrest.
although, the funny thing about Minnesota is that it’s one of those whacked liberal states which requires you to have your conceal carry permit and ID on you … which Pretti had left at home.
Trump does need to mobilize the NG and start arresting the mayor and governor. we’ll see if he’s got the balls for that.
I’m with you. While all of this is tragic, and avoidable, the fact remains, there are people, millions of people we are told, living in this country, with no legal reason for being here. They may very well have other reasons, but legally speaking, they are not allowed nor entitled to be present on American soil for any length of time for any reason.
While I may have had a softer heart for them at one time in the past, the instant they knowingly crossed the US border and entered the country illegally, remained in the country illegally, and most especially every one of them that took our money and resources, knowingly, should be summarily tossed the fuck out of this country. I have a thing about felons, you see.
I don’t care about this.
I don’t care about that.
I don’t care about any of the other issues that are brought up, I really don’t. Do they matter? Yes, to a degree, I do see the other sides point. And prior to the persons in question COMMITTING A FELONY BY ENTERING AND REMAINING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, I might have had sympathy for them.
Fact is, many of the people being tossed out really are dregs of society. Criminals, bad actors, evil people or just lazy good-for-nothings. Are lots of hardworking people who just want a better life getting caught up in all this? Yep, you betcha. Do I care? Nope. Should have stopped your illegal bretheren from coming here, then maybe you’d still be getting a free pass.
Sure, pretty had a right to carry and protest, but interfering with an enforcement action carried out by officers of the US is a crime (felony). Doing so while carrying increases the seriousness of the crime, not to mention heightening the danger to all on the scene.
My money is on the Sig Sauer P320, already notorious for accidental discharges, accidentally discharging in the hands of the ICE guy while he was taking it off Pretti. It did not help that one of the ICE guys screamed “Gun!” upon discovering it. That plus an accidental discharge would be more than enough for several nervous (they were surrounded by angry protestors, some of whom might be armed) ICE agents to unload on Pretti if they thought the first shot was from him. Ten bullets in Pretti but eleven shots suggests it might have played out this way.
Some video analysis on the former bird site indicates that Pretti’s gun, a Sig P320, accidentally discharged (which it is notorious for doing, to the point that the Air Force stopped using it after it killed someone – yay Indian manufacturing!) and thus spooked the officers into using deadly force. IMHO, the agents weren’t in the wrong in either case, but both of these libtards were idiots for LARPing themselves into situations where they could be killed. Bad luck in Pretti’s case, but Good knew damn well what she was doing.
Video of the discharge:
https://x.com/mask_bastard/status/2015280206366294456?s=20
Couple of videos on the gun:
https://youtu.be/KjkeEf1fT_Y?si=5J-2kAyfLdtwzq0r
https://youtu.be/jOMQOtOQoPk?si=Gq4wwbsGmsjBecn1
This one is long but the guy figures out that < 1mm of trigger pressure will make it fire if it’s touched.
Been saying we’re in a low intensity civil war now, since at least 2020. And I see what you say about where this is inevitably going. There’s a bunch of people what needs to grow a pair, and start operating with intestinal fortitude, daily. Our enemies, the communists, see this only going in their direction, and they will shoot all counter revolutionaries in the way.
KTA. Ftt,tti.
Spanish Civil War 2.0 brewing.
v1.0 was the commie libtards and useful idiots who hate God, themselves and all that is true and beautiful vs normal people.
The v2.0 is all the brown invaders mixed in.
Interesting times ahead.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God” -Matt 5:9
It’s tragically amusing that the Molon Labe guys who insist on their Constitutional right to carry guns are comfortable with the execution of those who are exercising their right to carry theirs. ICE and its engineers don’t care about the Constitution. The powers behind ICE will soon be able to no-knock-enter private homes without a warrant and do the same to EVERYONE the government decides is persona non grata at any given time. Do you think Molon Labe will protect anyone when the Democrats are in power after this sort of overreach?
The politics of the Left collapses under the weight of hatred of whites. The politics of the Right collapses under the weight of its hypocrisies. The whole nation collapses under the oppressive weight of its own suffocating government. It’s hard to see how a militaristic intervention can be avoided, but against whom and what? On whose side does a Christian fight?
The Bible is clear that the Christian is on the side of peace. That doesn’t mean whites will survive and thrive, or that America will turn brown. It means that every day and in every way, the Christian seeks the peaceful outcome. Shooting a gun at someone, or taking one to a protest where masked ICE gunmen are very likely on the hunt, especially when it’s abundantly clear that a killing on either side will aggravate an already fraught situation, or cheering it on all over the internet, is not a peaceful outcome. Judgment awaits those who fail to understand this.
Christian bloggers are under the same spiritual ordinance and judgment as those who are out on the streets carrying guns. Those who have had a part to play in agitating and aggravating an already fraught situation, whether for attention and validation by their partisan readers, or clicks for ad income, or in misguided allegiance to some dark lord, or even just out of habit, are putting themselves in the judgment docks.
This viewpoint is exactly why we’re in the mess we’re in. “Peacemaker” always means “stand aside and let people wrong you”. You’re forgetting that one if the Cardinal Virtues is Justice, meaning we have a right and a duty to stand up and defend what is right and punish what is wrong. Nations have a right to govern who gets to enter their country, and when those laws are broken, the right to remove those people. Someone standing between you, holding a knife or a gun, does not change that.
The basic problem is that the right are pussies. I don’t say that to asserts my own masculinity, I mean it definitionally. They talk a big game (“Try that in a small town!”) but when the rubber meets the road, they fold. The truth is that we don’t really want to do the dirty work to fix this. Ben Franklin was 100% right when he said “if you can keep it.” We apparently cannot, nor do we deserve to.
“Exactly why we’re in the mess we’re in”? That’s too broad a brushstroke from a Christian perspective. The mess we’re in is caused by a multitude of factors, many extending back into history long before we were born, yet culminating in today’s politics of the Left and Right, mass immigration and then illegal immigration and then the ICE problem. Shooting Biden’s mistakes is not cleaning up the mess but one more step in the long process of making it progressively worse.
The immediate mess we’re in is the inability of fanatics on the Left and Right to hold competing ideas in their heads at the one time. Everything is a Zero-Sum game for them: ‘evict the illegal immigrants or whites are doomed.’ That isn’t Justice – its a fatalistic and astonishingly fraught opinion. God’s justice is a different thing again. Ben Franklin had a valid point from a nationalistic perspective, but I suspect he and God might have had words over that “if you can keep it” comment.
Seeking peace and “stand aside and let people wrong you” have two different meanings. The command to “seek peace and pursue it” (Psalm 34:14; 1 Peter 3:11) is not passive. It means intentionally working toward peace, even when difficult, by turning from evil, doing good, and striving to resolve conflict. Jesus wasn’t passive, he instructed his disciples to arm themselves with swords self-defensively in preparation for their dangerous road (Lk 22:35-38) and I doubt he meant them just for show.
But there’s no need to nitpick. I see little conflict between our two comments. They convey competing ideas in this particular situation but the truth of one doesn’t negate the truth of the other. Christians in America will hopefully seek peace, justice and the American way in as ‘clean’ a way as possible. God’s justice may be what they expected or it may not.
Mathhew 5 is one of the more misunderstood gospels in the New Testament. Sure, promote the peace of God, but don’t profane the Word by casting it on those who will not listen and embrace (Matthew 7).
Matthew 7:6 is a timely reminder – there’s no profit in casting pearls before swine. Don’t forget, however, that the gospel is God’s power to save. Who can say whose ears the Holy Spirit might cause to open as the gospel is preached, or when?
Conflict is a powerful moment to preach the gospel because it reveals human brokenness and creates a spiritual hunger for reconciliation, peace, and grace – core themes of the gospel. When people are in pain, tension, or division, they are often more receptive to the message that God offers: forgiveness, restoration, and unity through Christ. The gospel addresses the root of conflict: sin and separation from God – and offers a way back through Jesus’ sacrifice.
Jesus’ example shows that conflict is not a barrier to the gospel, but a platform for it. He entered into conflict with religious leaders, faced rejection, and endured suffering—not to avoid struggle, but to redeem it. His death and resurrection provide the ultimate solution to the deepest conflict: humanity’s separation from God (Romans 5:1). By facing conflict with peace, love, humility, and grace, believers reflect Christ and point others to His saving work.
Conflict also creates opportunities to live out the gospel in tangible ways. When Christians respond to conflict with forgiveness, patience, and peacemaking – mirroring Christ’s character – they demonstrate the transformative power of the gospel. As Ephesians 5:1–2 calls believers to imitate God in love, such actions become a living testimony: “By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another” (John 13:35).
Ultimately, times of conflict are not distractions from the gospel – they are invitations to embody it. In the midst of this time of conflict and tension, the gospel offers hope, healing, and a new way of relating that only God can provide.
Christians, preach the gospel with confidence to all who will listen!
“Permit-to-carry holders must have some form of ID when carrying their gun, along with their permit. If not, it’s a petty misdemeanor with a $25 fine.”
according to Minnesota Law, Pretti was carrying illegally. and Pretti KNEW THAT HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW because MN requires every permit holder to take and pass a “permit-to-carry course”.
could Pretti carry while attending a protest legally? sure. but Minnesota made failure to carry ID while doing so a problem.
“The powers behind ICE will soon be able to no-knock-enter private homes without a warrant and do the same to EVERYONE”
baw-hahahahahahaha. that’s been going on for DECADES now. Randy Weaver would like to give you a good talking too. the ATF murdered Bryan Malinowski less than 2 years ago. and that one actually got national news coverage, usually these things happen and no one outside of local media knows anything about it.
https://saf.org/how-atf-agents-killed-arkansas-airport-director-bryan-malinowski/
cops killing or shooting people in their own homes in no-knock raids has been happening continually ever since no-knock warrants were introduced, they are regular features in things like Reason magazine.