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Didactic Mind, Ep. 52: Surrender is Not a Strategy

by | Oct 25, 2020 | Podcasts | 4 comments

In this week’s podcast episode, I discuss the PUA and MGTOW movements within the Manosphere, and offer my thoughts as to why what they are selling is not good for young men today:

The recent post in which I chronicled the motivations behind my desire to turn Didactic Mind into a home for self-improvement and righteous masculinity can be found here. The original post that inspired this podcast can be found right here.

A couple of other posts in which I discuss Neil Strauss’s issues and relationships:

Books mentioned in the podcast:

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  1. Kapios

    The manosohere still exist? Since Heartiste went down and Roosh took down RoK and turned religious there wasn’t much of that left. PUAs, MGTOW and MRA never really did anything concrete about the injustice of the ‘equality’ narrative so there is not much community for men to advance their interests other than a few Facebook groups.

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    • Didact

      The Manosphere is still around, but in a very different form from what it used to be. The PUA and “how to get women” stuff is still there, but it’s now the “gateway drug” of the red pill. The deeper philosophical truths about identity and faith are buried underneath all of that – we all have to start somewhere, after all.

      The problem is that the Type II MGTOWs – the “surrender now and don’t even bother fighting” guys – don’t want you to get that far. They just want to run away. I object quite strongly to that.

      As for advancing the agenda of men – that agenda is really pretty simple. Society needs to be organised in such a way that the average man can get married and have children. With that in place, civilisation thrives. Without it, civilisation collapses. The way to advance that agenda is not by running away and checking out completely. That will bring about the collapse, certainly – but then who will rebuild afterwards?

      The way to advance it is in fact to go about taking risks, building families, and trying to pass on hard-won lessons to the next generations. This is what the Baby Boomers and their more narcissistic Millennial offspring have failed to do. GenX wasn’t nearly as bad, but their natural cynicism does not lend itself particularly well to the kind of long drawn-out battle that we’re looking at right now.

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      • abprosper

        MGTOW Is absolutely sensible in the current situation though obviously not for Christians. Its simply not possible to fix society by taking risks or building families since the society we live in takes especially care in making both near impossible.

        Things will get even worse as we are a few years, a decade or so with current tech alone from a corporate police state where expressing the wrong idea means your starve or for example, you buy one too many beers and the police are called if you go near a car or say you buy one too many tootsie roles and are no longer allowed health care.

        This will amplify the already broken system our schools and courts foist on our kids and create generations of ultra risk adverse neurotic people who won’t even bother talking to the opposite sex for fear of life ruining consequences. And yes these people won’t reproduce but short the Amish, basically no one will.

        If you want to see some of that right now, a recent survey came back with the findings that half of all people are single which is terrible but even worse half of those have no desire of any kind for a partner.

        Also don’t think you can keep your kids away from the social rot, likely you can’t. The tentacles of the system are quite pervasive. Unless you have a very robust community, your kids will be turned and even groups with higher than average reproduction like the oughties Evangelical movement get ground down to the same as everyone else.

        Its not invincible but its also not avoidable and the Benedict Option simply won’t be allowed.

        To my mind this means either the current society needs to die off which it is slowly or the “risk takers” need to avoid trying to fix around the edges and take charge of the system and control technology, trade and all the anti reproduction policies with an iron hand.

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        • Didact

          Everything you write is certainly correct and true from a secular point of view. Ultimately, though, it’s a really simple choice: fight or flee.

          And the most effective way to fight is to have a family and children.

          I’m seeing this mindset taking hold among even non-Christians in the West. Neo-pagan Odinists in Scandinavia are doing it. Secular friends in Ukraine are doing it. Even a few folks that I remember from back in the day in NYFC are doing it. These people are moving out of the big cities, away from the plague- and riot-infested hellholes that they are becoming, and back out to their roots. And they are having families. It’s glorious to watch.

          Also don’t think you can keep your kids away from the social rot, likely you can’t. The tentacles of the system are quite pervasive.

          That is true. Some of the rot will always seep through eventually. But that doesn’t mean that the efforts in doing so are wasted.

          Good parenting essentially comes down to giving children a solid foundation and the free will to make their own choices. (This is probably richly ironic coming from a single man with no children, I’m sure.) If they screw things up after getting a solid grounding in the basics, that’s on them.

          To my mind this means either the current society needs to die off which it is slowly or the “risk takers” need to avoid trying to fix around the edges and take charge of the system and control technology, trade and all the anti reproduction policies with an iron hand.

          I’d say that we are looking at this happening within a generation. The Islamic world is already facing a serious demographic and religious crisis – the “avalanche of apostasy” is upon them right now, and they are terrified. Their fertility rates are dropping rapidly as well. Even a blasphemous heresy like Islam cannot stop people from doing their own thing. Which means that, sooner or later, Islamic leaders are going to react by mandating births and denying education and opportunities to women (which is their default setting anyway).

          I’m not saying that this is a good thing. But I suspect that similar things will happen in Christian countries eventually as well.

          A lot of that will happen naturally as economies collapse under the colossal mountains of debt that Western nations have created. At that point it’s a matter of survival for women, and the fastest and best way to achieve that is by abandoning careers and professions and becoming wives and mothers again.

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