It has been quite a while since I did anything approaching a reasonably deep and nuanced look at Izzlam over here. World events have made such writing irrelevant, to say the least. But it is worth remembering that Izzlam represents a potent threat to Western civilisation – though the nature of that threat has changed dramatically over the past 20 years.
Back in the early 2000s, after 9/11 (and the various lies, deceptions, and sordid misdeeds that followed), there was good reason to fear violent radical Izzlamists. Their suicide bombers wrought havoc across the Western world, and their hate-filled screeds threatened “tolerant Western liberals” with death and destruction for Western imperialist crimes against Islamic nations. Those same “tolerant Western liberals”, evidently fearing threats of “Islamophobia” and “racism” far more than the threat of death, or the deracination and ultimate destruction of Western Christian civilisation, bent over backwards (and, in more than a few cases, forwards) to accommodate Izzlamists and vilify criticisms of their “religion”.
Today, however, the situation is very different. Many of you may not have realised it, but there has been a very serious crisis brewing within the Islamic world for the past 10 years or so. And we have nothing less than TEH INNARWEBZ to thank for it.
We know this as the Avalanche of Apostasy, and it is a gigantic problem for the Muzzies:
Why is this happening?
Because, quite simply, people can now compare what Izzlamists say their books contain, and what they ACTUALLY contain.
(Before we proceed, I should point out a rather interesting fact: this site, and its predecessor, the Blogspot site Didact’s Reach, are straight-up BizANNED in Pakistan, because apparently they spread “hatred and lies” about Islam and Muslims. That is not even remotely true – everything I have written on the subject of Izzlam, comes from a desire to teach and enlighten Muslims, to get them off their horrid path toward eternal damnation. But, it is funny nonetheless to think that a site barely anyone reads, is so offensive to Izzlamists that they had to outright BAN it in a Muslim country.)
Izzlam’s Truth Claims
Proponents of the Fake Religion of Pieces, and their Paedophile Prophet, Mo’Lester, claim they hold the keys to the ultimate revelation from the same God that gave Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and Jesus their teachings. They insist the revelations of Muhammad came directly from the mouth of Allah – their understanding of the one God – and that God’s nature is singular (i.e. Unitarian), not Triune. (That is to say, Muslims flat-out reject the concept of the Trinity, and refuse to accept that Yahweh fathered a Son, or that there is any sort of Holy Spirit.)
They insist that the Koran they have today is the same – word for word, letter for letter, and even in some cases dot-for-dot – as what Muhammad received directly from the mouth of Gabriel, the angel of the Lord. They hold that their holy books contain a plethora of scientific and historical miracles that could not possibly be anything other than the work of God. And they believe Muhammad brought to Mankind the perfect moral code, applicable for all times, all peoples, and all nations.
Every single one of these claims is outright NONSENSE. And it does not take much to prove this.
How to Get to the Truth
You can approach and attack Izzlam from a number of different perspectives. Some Christian polemicists simply point out the horrendous and ridiculous contradictions in Izzlam’s core texts – the Koran, the hadith, the sirah, the tafsir, and the tahriq. However, doing so often requires at least some facility in Arabic, which is an extremely difficult language at the best of times.
Others approach Izzlam from a historical perspective, pointing out the utter lack of independent historical verification for the core arguments and claims of the faith. The problem with this is, of course, you have to look quite deeply at fairly academic and dense books to do this well.
Ultimately, no matter which route one takes, one can get to the truth simply by dismantling each and every lie the Izzlamists tell about their faith. What remains, points in precisely one direction – Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the resurrected Son, the Alpha and the Omega, the Lamb of God.
Incidentally, by far the best and most capable investigators of Izzlamist nonsense are, inevitably, Christian polemicists – because only Christians have the necessary tools and alternatives to offer. This is very much to the good, because Muslims, on their own merits, are quite often truly wonderful people – they are proud of and sincere in their faith, they love Jesus, and they believe in Heaven and Hell. Some of the finest and most virtuous Christians you will ever find, were once Moose-Limbs who abandoned their daemonically-inspired faith.
Where to Start
However, where does one even begin unpacking the lies and nonsense of this religion? (Which, when properly understood, is simply nothing more than a heretical and blasphemous offshoot of Christianity, which claims to be Unitarian but is in fact completely confused over both the Trinity and the concept of a single godhead.)
The great thing about Izzlam is, no matter where you look, you can find something absurd to unpack. You could start with the supposed “scientific miracles” – which have now been debunked, and even their own dawagandists admit this:
You could start with the fact that Muzzies insist the Old and New Testaments have been corrupted, and the Koran is the “correction” of those ancient texts. Yet, when you actually look at what the Koran says, you quickly realise Mo’Lester hizzself affirmed what the Gospels and the Torah said, in his own time, as being accurate and correct.
Or, you could begin with some of the truly ridiculous and flat-out insane “prophecies” made in the Koran, such as the one about the Moon splitting in two. There is no historical evidence WHATSOEVER that anything of the sort ever happened.
There is another prophecy in the Koran that says the End Times will come when the Romans are the most numerous and powerful people on Earth – which, back in 630AD, they were. But, today, the Italians number roughly 60-odd million, while the rest of the world’s population is over 8 BILLION.
You could go further and look at the episode of the “Night Journey” – one of the weirdest fairy-tales in a book essentially constructed out of Jewish and Christian apocryphal texts, and which you can only understand by looking at the hadith – in which Mo’Lester flew from Mecca to Jerusalem on the back of a buraq. He then ascended to the heavens, and met all of the various great prophets of the past, including Moses. Finally, he ended up meeting “Allah”, who told Mo’Lester to instruct Muzzies to pray 50 (yes, really) times a day.
Mo’Lester then went back down to a lower heaven, met Moses, and received instruction to go back up and bargain with Allah to lower the number of prayers. Eventually, Mo’Lester got the total number of prayers per day down to 5.
If you paid attention to the course of events in that story, you would instantly realise a colossal problem within the Izzlamist doctrines:
For a religion that claims Allah has no counterparts and answers to nothing and no one else, a mortal MAN ends up telling God what to do.
It is, as I said, a religion of severe internal contradictions and problems – which is precisely what you would expect from a man-made construct.
But, if I, personally, had to choose just five aspects of the Fake Religion of Pieces to dissect, they would be the following questions, for which Muslims simply have NO coherent answers. And, the best part is, asking these questions simply results in ever more questions, all of which are impossible for Muslims to answer.
1. Where is the Original Koran of Uthman?
Izzlamist doctrine holds the Koran of today is the perfect copy of the perfect book, which has resided eternally next to Allah since the beginning of Creation, passed down to Man through the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) by oral narration to the ears of the prophet Muhammad.
(This, of course, immediately opens up a severe logical inconsistency: how can a singular deity, with NO partners or associates, who is the beginning of all things, ALSO have a book, which is the uncreated speech of that deity, co-existing, co-eternally, with him? Ask that question and watch Muslims tie themselves into knots.)
According to Izzlamists, what we have today in the Koran is precisely what Muhammad articulated in his lifetime, and it has been miraculously preserved down to the very last letter, jot, and tittle.
The problem is, the moment you start unpacking this FROM ISLAM’S OWN SOURCES, you run into colossal problems.
Their own traditions also say the following:
During Muhammad’s lifetime – so the story goes – nobody thought to write down the Koran, except on scraps of bone, animal hide, and leaves here and there. Nobody thought to compile it. But, upon Mo’Lester’s death, the first of the Rashidun Caliphs, Abu Bakr, fearing the knowledge of the Koran would be lost after the Battle of Yamama, in which dozens of Mo’Lester’s closest associates died, commanded the codification of the Koran.
Mo’Lester’s top scribe, Zaid ibn Thabit, then set about compiling it into a single copy – which he placed under the bed of one of Muhammad’s wives, Hafsah.
There it stayed for 20 years, until the third Rightly Guided Caliph, Uthman, commanded Zaid to retrieve it, and then recompile it “in the dialect of the Qur’aysh“, alongside three members of Uthman’s own immediate family. Uthman then ordered his scribes to create 5 copies of this Koran, and distributed them to 5 cities – Mecca, Medina, Kufa, Baghdad, and Damascus.
He then ordered ALL other extant copies of the Koran BURNED.
You see the problem, I hope. The supposed “one revelation” which has stood unchanged for 1,400 years, has in fact been changed MULTIPLE TIMES, and has been changed by MEN.
For a god who supposedly protects his own revelation, Allah does a positively crap job of it.
So many questions spring out of this set of stories that it is difficult even to know where to begin.
Let us start with a very simple one:
If this Koran of Uthman’s supposedly exists – where the Niflheim is it, then?
This is not at all an unreasonable question to ask. We Christians have copies of the New Testament in virtually complete form, dating back to between 300 and 450 AD – centuries earlier than the first Koran. We can point to the Codex Vaticanus, the Codex Alexandrinus, the Codex Sinaiticus, and others. We can also point to a literal MOUNTAIN of manuscript evidence – little bits and pieces of papyrus which date back to 100 AD, and in some cases even earlier.
For the Old Testament, we can point to the Dead Sea Scrolls, found in the caves of Qumran – I was there, at that exact site, back in 2014 – which give us almost complete texts of the Book of Isaiah, the Pentateuch, and a number of deuterocanonical texts.
The papyri, codices, and translations we have in our hands tell us that what we look at as the Old and New Testaments of our Bibles are fundamentally the same as what existed well over 2,000 years ago.
Furthermore, Jews and Christians are the ONLY people in the entire WORLD who can make that claim, and back it up with evidence. Muslims cannot. Hindus cannot. Buddhists cannot. NO ONE ELSE can.
If we, as Christians, supposedly the inheritors of corrupted revelations, can hold on to texts which fundamentally agree with what we have in our hands today, for over 2,000 years – why is it Muslims are unable to produce even ONE Koran, dating back to 652 AD – supposedly the time when Uthman distributed those Korans to his empire – that agrees word-for-word, line-for-line, dot-for-dot, with today’s text?
The Izzlamist will always try to dodge and duck around this question through obfuscation and bafflegarble. He will typically try to point to the five great manuscripts of the Koran currently distributed around the world – the Topkapi in Istanbul, the Codex Parisino-petropolitanus in the Bibliotheque National in Paris, the Samarkand Kufic Koran in Tashkent, the Ma’il in the British Library, and the San’aa from Yemen.
The problem is, every single one of these Korans has serious issues with its dating, completeness, and accuracy with respect to today’s standardised text.
There is not enough room in this poast to go into all of the issues. Suffice it to say, there are HUNDREDS of scribal errors, corrections, deviations, and differences between the Koran of today, and all of those manuscripts, and all you have to do is read Dr. Daniel Brubaker‘s superb short book on the subject, which spun out of his PhD thesis, to see for yourself.
Then there is the problem of which actual Koran Muslims use today. You would think they would use a Koran from Mecca, dating back to the mid-7th Century. In fact, they do not. The actual Koran used by Sunni Islam today is the Hafs Koran, published very roughly around 770 AD or thereabouts – a full 140 years after Mo’Lester died.
There are, in fact, MULTIPLE KORANS in existence today – at least 36 of them that we know of, all in Arabic, all with 114 Surahs (chapters), and all claiming to be the one and only true Koran:
There is simply no getting around the fact that the Koran is a man-made construct, which has gone through MULTIPLE revisions and attempts at standardisation. Islam’s own scholars have actually known this for CENTURIES – they have simply refused to admit it, because they are rightly terrified of what it would do to the faith of the Ummah.
This is now becoming increasingly well understood in Western circles, too. Dr. Shady Hekmat Nasser – himself a devout Muslim – is now Associate Professor of Near Eastern Languages and Civilisations at Harvard (yes, I know, it’s a joke of a school these days, but his academic credentials are impeccable), and has written the definitive account of the Koran‘s compilation and recension in his scholarly work, Transmission of the Variant Readings of the Qur’an.
Stephen J. Shoemaker has also tackled this issue from a less dense and more layman-friendly perspective in Creating the Koran, which I am now reading – he makes a number of serious errors with respect to his comparisons between Koranic and Biblical textual criticisms, but overall, his points are very solid.
The tl;dr version of all of this is very simple:
Izzlam’s truth-claim about the Koran being the uncreated and fully preserved word of God is NONSENSE, and it is easy to prove just HOW nonsensical it really is.
2. What About Dhul Qar’nayn?
The story of Dhul Qarnayn (or Zul-qarnain) in the Koran is decidedly weird. This character is a murky one in Izzlamist doctrine, but many (though not all) mainstream interpretations (from the tafsir, that is, the commentaries) argue he is the Izzlamic representation of Alexander the Great.
In Arabic, the name refers to the two-horned one, and he appears in Surah 18 of the Koran. Supposedly, according to at least some traditions, he got one horn after being smacked on the head so hard he died, and then somehow came back to life, and then invited people to convert to Islam, and got whacked again on the head. These smacks on the head caused great lumps, like horns, to grow out of his head – hence his rather odd name.
If you think that is weird, wait until you learn what he found:
Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: near it he found a people: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority), either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”
— Surah 18:86, Koran, Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation
So, apparently, the Sun – that gigantiferous ball of burning gas in the sky, that gives warmth and life to all of us here on Earth, and which we KNOW is vastly larger than the Earth itself – somehow manages to set INTO THE EARTH in a spring of muddy (or boiling – Izzlamists love to try to dodge the question of what the Koran says, by going to the even more disastrous hadith concerning this bit of ridiculousness) water.
I mean… seriously?
Atheists used to laugh at Creationists for what the former considered to be the absurdly unscientific fairy-tales of the latter. They mock us constantly for believing a dead man can come back to life, arguing we follow fairy-tales. Yet, what is this, if not the most insane fairy-tale of all?
Oh, but wait, it gets even better, and funnier.
3. What Is This Business of Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj?
Surah 18 goes on to narrate the following rather weird passages:
He said: “Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
“But whoever believes, and works righteousness, he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as we order it by our command.”
Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
(He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
Then followed he (another) way.
Then followed he (another) way.
Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
They said: “O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (people) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?”
He said: “(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
“Bring me blocks of iron.” At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain sides, he said, “Blow (with your bellows)” then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: “Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead.”
Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
He said: “This is a mercy from my Lord: but when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true.”
— Surah 18:87-98, Koran, Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation
The Koran is extremely difficult to understand, because it is written in a very archaic form of Arabic – and, in fact, there is very good reason to believe it is not originally an Arabic text at all, but rather, an Aramaic one, and when you read it in Syro-Aramaic from that time, as one “Christoph Luxenburg” did, most of the nonsense and bafflegarble of the Koran simply melts away. You are left with a series of Christian lectionaries that praise the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Son of God.
Leaving that aside, though… what sort of NONSENSE is this?!?!?!
Essentially, once you parse through this, what the text above says is, Alexander the Great found these weird people called Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj – the Arabic names for Gog and Magog from the Books of Ezekiel and Revelation. He then built a wall between two mountains to contain them, which they could not penetrate it.
What the Koran doesn’t in that passage there is that these peoples number in their trillions by now – they outnumber the people of the Earth by a thousand times. And the wall between those two mountains measures something like 300Km long, and it has existed for over 3,000 years. You have to go to the hadith to learn this, and when you do, it is just HILARIOUS.
Yes, Izzlamists believe this. No, I am not joking – it is right there in their books. If you don’t believe me, that’s fine – listen to Sheikh Dr. Yasir Qadhi, one of Izzlam’s most prominent and highly esteemed scholars:
The ONLY way out of this conundrum for Muslims is to say, “Allah knows best”. Of course, that simply means, “we have no freakin’ clue, we know our theology is absurd and idiotic, and we are resorting to deus ex machina to make sense of it all”.
When Christians do this, we (rightly) get slapped down for it. When Muzzies do it, they get away with it. And that needs to stop.
4. How Old Was Aisha?
From the Christian perspective, one of the absolute WORST things about Izzlam, is the issue of marriage. Christians need to understand, very clearly, that the concept of marriage given to us in the Bible, first by Moses and then by Jesus, DOES NOT EXIST in Islam.
In the case of Christians, we have ONE wife, and precisely one wife. For us as men, she is as much a part of our own bodies as our own arms. We are to cherish and love our wives, be faithful to them in all things, and must never stray from them or betray them with infidelity.
Izzlam, on the other hand, permits one man up to four wives – and as many sex slaves and concubines of war as they can manage. Mo’Lester himself broke this commandment from Allah – no one is quite sure how many wives he actually had. I have seen estimates ranging from eleven, to NINETEEN.
There is also no such thing as “marriage until death” in Islam – a man can divorce his wife simply by saying “talak” three times. Worse yet, if he divorces his wife like that, because of her refusal to submit to him, and she then apologises and humbles herself, he cannot, BY THE LAW OF SHARIAH, marry her again until she has had sex with another man.
This, to Christians, is not merely outrageous – it is disgusting.
But the worst of the worst has to be the issue of child-marriage in Islam. This is a very real thing, and derives from the age of Mo’Lester’s favourite wife, Aisha, the Mother of the Faithful.
Izzlamic scriptures make clear, beyond any doubt, that Aisha was 6 years old when Muhammad – then in his mid-fifties – married her, and 9 years old when he consummated the marriage.
That is paedophilia, no matter how one tries to smooth things over. Even to mention it is sickening. But this is what EVERY serious exegesis of the Koran, the hadith, and the sirah (biography of Muhammad) makes clear. Every accepted Sunni scholar of Islam, and almost every Shi’a scholar, who ever wrote a tafsir (commentary/exegesis), takes these ages as canonical.
Bring this up in front of Izzlamists, though, and they will tie themselves into pretzels trying to pretend this is not an issue. They will try to duck it by claiming Izzlamist scriptures AKSHULLY say Aisha was 18 – no, she bloody wasn’t, and the tafsir of Ibn Kathir, the hadith collections of al-Bukhari and al-Muslim, and the Sunnan Abu Dawud, all make this absolutely clear.
Or they will try to claim the tu quoque fallacy by arguing that the Virgin Mary was 13, and St. Joseph was an old man, when they married and she gave birth to Our Lord. Never mind that NO source document in the New Testament, or anywhere else, documents her age – Izzlamists take this “argument” from the Catholic Encyclopaedia, and then twist it into something the actual text of that work DOES NOT SAY.
If that does not work, Izzlamists will then try to say that child marriage was fine back then, but is no longer applicable today. This is, of course, nonsense – and, if you find the very rare honest Izzlamist, he will admit as much under pressure:
This is actually a question Islam CAN answer – it just really, REALLY does not want to do so. And the reason why is simple:
God wrote His Law upon our hearts. We KNOW, full well, and deep down, that paedophilia, incest, abortion, rape, murder, theft, and all manner of other immoralities, are precisely that – immoral. It is only by lawyering around the Word of God that we can convince ourselves otherwise.
That is precisely what Izzlam tries to do.
5. Where is Allah?
This last one is a source of much hilarity to the rest of us. If you know your god, and you know his character, surely you should therefore be able to say where he is.
For Christians, this poses no problem whatsoever. Our God is a being of infinite power and knowledge – from our perspective as humans. He is a limitless being, because He stands outside His Creation and rules over it all. He can enter it at will; He can be everywhere and anywhere He wants to be; and He gives mercy and justice to all who seek Him with an open heart and a clear mind.
For Muslims, though, figuring out where Allah actually is, tends to be an exercise in serious head-scratching. This is because, in Izzlamist theology, Allah does not enter Creation – he is too high and mighty for that. He refuses to sully himself with the doings of mere mortals – the lowest he ever goes is to the fifth heaven during the night.
(The Izzlamist concept of Earth and Heaven is also hilarious, by the way – their documents state there are 7 Earths, all stacked neatly on top of each other like pancakes, with no gaps between them, and it takes 500 years to travel between each one. They also state there are 7 heavens, each stacked on top of the other like domes, and that shooting stars in the sky are missiles used by Allah to shoot down daemons who seek to spy on his divine revelations.)
(Look, just because I know this stuff, doesn’t mean I take it seriously. It is just too ridiculous to read with a straight face.)
If you ask three Muslim imams where Allah actually is, you will get FIVE opinions. No, really, just watch:
So… where is their moon-god?
The answer:
No one has a clue!
Conclusion – This is Your Brain on Izzlam
Christians need to understand a few things about Islam. It is not a brother religion of ours – just as modern-day Judaism is a post-Babylonian corruption of the laws of the Torah, which seeks to supplant the clear Word of Yahweh with the opinions of rabbis, so too Islam is a corruption of the Word of Jesus, which seeks to supplant the logos with man-made nonsense.
Islam is not peaceful. It is not sensible. It is avowedly anti-scientific, and it is a man-made agglomeration of some of the most kooky ideas you have ever seen.
Yet it is taken seriously by over a BILLION souls worldwide – and many of them are the best people you could ever hope to meet. I personally have met Muslims in Dagestan who make the average Christian look like a blasphemer and a lazy drunkard. The Dagestanis are some of the warmest, friendliest, nicest, kindest, most thoroughly decent people imaginable.
It is heartbreaking to think these people will go straight to Hell, because they deny the divinity of Jesus, the existence of the Triune Godhead, the supremacy of the Father, or the existence of the Holy Spirit. Everything they worship is a severe and terrible corruption of the true Word – brought to us in the flesh by the God-man, Jesus Christ.
The good news is, this “Avalanche of Apostasy” they are seeing throughout the Muslim world, is happening in no small part because Jesus keeps appearing to Muslims in dreams. There are very few ways in which their god, Allah, communicates with Muslims – but when God, the TRUE God, communicates with them through dreams, they cannot deny it.
If you do not believe me, listen to the testimony of the late, sorely missed Nabeel Qureshi, one of Islam’s most famous apostates and converts to the True Faith:
If you know Muslims, educate yourself in their religion and its practices. Understand they worship a terrible and corrupted form of the truth – and be prepared for their arguments that you do the same.
Be prepared for the fact that, initially, you will not be able to crack their delusion bubble. Arguing with Izzlamists is like trying to nail jelly to a wall – they will always seek to squirm away and change the topic. You hear this all the time when real Arabic-speaking warriors of Christ, like Christian Prince, Rob Christian, Sam Shamoun, Al-Fadi, and Brother Rashid, try to witness to Muslims – they simply WILL NOT LISTEN, at first.
But, eventually, if you crack through the delusion bubble, and you pierce that ridiculous plot-armour with facts, evidence, and logic, either from historical sources or from the Izzlamist sources themselves, you will find them opening up to the truth. And that is when you will have to make them confront the true horrors of Izzlamist practice and doctrine.
Once they cross that river… there is no going back.
It is at that point that many of them will realise what Nabeel did above – that the Koran has NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE to comfort a hurting man.
Not.
One.
Verse.
Many of them will lapse into apostasy and atheism. Some of them will learn that atheism presents no solutions whatsoever. When that happens, and they break utterly – do not rejoice, for they are in terrible pain.
Instead, minister to them using what Our Lord said to His disciples, in the clear light of day:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons[a] of God.
10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
— Matthew 5:2-11, English Standard Version
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well said.
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an off-topic about another au-courant delusion bubble, they are now admitting that the Ukraine MAY have pushed Russian forces back ~5 miles “in first possible counteroffensive success” … when they were supposed to be in Russian territory within a month after beginning the early June offensive.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-pushed-russian-forces-back-2-5-miles-from-dnipro-river-banks-2023-11