I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. That said, I’ve seen more than a few Indians and Pakistani women around that are prettier than her. I will say that on a whole the average Indian woman I see is easier on the eyes than the average black woman here in the states. At least to me.

But black dudes seem to like them (their women).

Reading Roosh has gotten me into reading a lot of the Orthodox literature. Interesting reading, and I like to compare them to my own Roman Catholicism. One thing that stands out is the Catholics these days don’t spend a lot of time contemplating Satan. This wasn’t the case in the past.

The part where I drift away from Orthodoxy is their shunning of the concept of purgatory. If you follow their writings, there’ll be a few dozen people in heaven. The rest of us are screwed, apparently. They have some busted logic. I’ll use an Indian as an example. That Indian (Native American, not dot-Indian) dude was created in the image and likeness of God as well. He hasn’t heard the Word. Still, he’s upright and righteous in his culture, but he can’t get in?

Man I miss Dalrock. He was keyed in on something most of the Christian teachers and leaders either can’t see or; because they want popularity, won’t see:

Marriage can’t be just the man groveling for the wife. It must be both, kneeling before Jesus and holding hands to build together. It’s not about who controls the TV remote. It’s about abandoning the TV remote and building to last beyond this world.

This, too, seems like something that about 10% of Christian men may in fact find. Dalrock wrote about exactly this for a decade, in more detail than I have every seen anywhere else.

I reckon the percentages are considerably higher than that, particularly in conservative, tight-knit communities in the Bible Belt and in Eastern Europe. But I speculate that it is no higher than 30%, in this day and age – and that’s if you’re very lucky.

I actually rate Harnaaz Sandhu highly

I agree, she is very attractive by Indian standards – easily in the top 0.001% of all women there, as you say. I just think that she’s nowhere near as attractive as Eastern Europeans and certain East Asians. That is just my opinion, of course. But I think that Ms Sandhu is assuredly a hard 9.5 by most standards.

In reality, if the gap between Ekaterina Enokaeva and the average Russian woman is X, then the gap between Harnaaz Sandhu and the average Indian woman is 5X.

I think you are probably correct.

THIS type of questioning, the shameless or super-delusional use of apex, 1 in a million anecdotes as representative of the averages is why I pose the question of whether Indians (both men and women) are either extremely dishonest or (yes) stupid, since to use the ultra-rare apex anecdote as ‘proof’ of the average can fairly be called stupid.

Yes, I think that, in some cases, Indians do engage in the “fallacy of the biggest” to pretend that extreme outliers somehow represent the entire nation. I have to say that I have not seen much of it, beyond the constant chest-beating about how great the Indian education system is – it really isn’t, outside of the IITs, and then only a few of those.

I do not think it is extreme dishonesty or stupidity. There is certainly SOME dishonesty involved. But a lot of it is due to a lack of any real alternative frame of reference. And I think even more of it is due to a serious inferiority complex that Indians have had since achieving independence. Their entire governing class and academic and media elite, pretty much, seems to think that India was suppressed and repressed by the British Empire, and too many of them overcompensate by bigging up Indian achievements, when those individual achievements have very little to do with India itself.

Lastly, I think most Indians on the Internet who write in English (such as it is), even if they haven’t traveled abroad, have at least seen enough Western TV shows and movies, all meet the standard of having been exposed to the better parts of the world, at least in terms of what attractive women look like, that they cannot find refuge in the ‘they have never been out of India’ excuse. That can work for a rural Indian who does not speak English and has little or no Internet access. But not the Indians who write in (bad) English on Quora, etc.

I think you underestimate the power of the wider culture that they live in. Yes, they may have access to Western TV shows and entertainment – but such shows have very little actual penetration into Indian households. Even Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, which are penetrating heavily into the more affluent middle classes in urban areas, promote Indian content featuring Indian stars, and generally deprecate non-Indian content – because that’s what those Indian natives want.

Indians, in general, tend to be nationalistic, xenophobic, and actually quite racist. But they also have a deep-seated set of insecurities that make it extremely difficult for them to admit that they are wrong, about anything. That is why they tend to hype up their successful businessmen, politicians, and actresses to quite ludicrous levels on the way up – and then heap endless scorn and hatred upon them on their way down. There is a rather good Netherflix special (oxymoron, I know) called “Bad Boy Billionaires of India” – worth watching if you can get it – which showcases this mentality in full.

Hi didactic what are your thoughts on Half Indian, Half White women?

Very positive. They can be quite attractive. The (quite small) Anglo-Indian community in India, for instance, is known for producing women who are both beautiful and highly talented. They inherit some of the best genes from both European and Indian cultures.

What is interesting is most of these women have English fathers and Indian mothers.

Yep. Indian women can make good wives to Western men – it’s just not easy due to the extreme differences in cultures.

Didact said :

remember that SHE IS SUPPOSED TO DO THE SAME WITH YOU. And if she will not do so – then she ain’t wife material.

Agreed. So about 10% of devout Christian men are likely to find such a rare woman with whom to take the risk.

don’t do it unless you are:

e) Most importantly, BOTH willing to put your faith and trust in your Creator;

Agreed again. This, too, seems like something that about 10% of Christian men may in fact find. Dalrock wrote about exactly this for a decade, in more detail than I have every seen anywhere else.

Thanks for answering.

I actually rate Harnaaz Sandhu highly. My beef (pun intended) with Indians is how they shamelessly use the 0.001% apex of Indian women as ‘proof’ that all Indian women are attractive.

In reality, if the gap between Ekaterina Enokaeva and the average Russian woman is X, then the gap between Harnaaz Sandhu and the average Indian woman is 5X.

The essence of my question is why Indians (both men and women) use the apex anecdote as ‘proof’ that India does not have any negatives, such as :

i) A couple of Indian women have won Miss Universe over the years, hence Indian woman are the most attractive in the world.
ii) Some Indian billionaire is the 5th richest man in the world, therefore India is a very wealthy country.

THIS type of questioning, the shameless or super-delusional use of apex, 1 in a million anecdotes as representative of the averages is why I pose the question of whether Indians (both men and women) are either extremely dishonest or (yes) stupid, since to use the ultra-rare apex anecdote as ‘proof’ of the average can fairly be called stupid.

Lastly, I think most Indians on the Internet who write in English (such as it is), even if they haven’t traveled abroad, have at least seen enough Western TV shows and movies, all meet the standard of having been exposed to the better parts of the world, at least in terms of what attractive women look like, that they cannot find refuge in the ‘they have never been out of India’ excuse. That can work for a rural Indian who does not speak English and has little or no Internet access. But not the Indians who write in (bad) English on Quora, etc.

That is an astoundingly stupid and bigoted set of comments that you’ve just made, especially considering the existence of Rabindranath Tagore, the man who wrote India’s national anthem, was a Bengali, a Nobel Laureate for literature, and the man who literally invented much of the modern Bengali language. And that is before we get to the fact that the Indo-European language tree shows significant common ancestry between the majority of northern Indian languages and virtually all European ones.

Furthermore, women in India are treated abominably, particularly in the rural areas. Rape victims are treated as pariahs and criminals, and female infanticide is a very common problem even today.

You have every right to be a racist bigot. That’s up to you. But do at least try to educate yourself about the realities of India before you say such idiotic things.

I find Naomi Scott, Asha Leo, Charlotte Lohmann and Samantha Jade very cute and beautiful.
I will say Samantha Jade is unfair since her father was Anglo-Indian, so she is probably only 25% Indian.

What is interesting is most of these women have English fathers and Indian mothers.