This was not to say i have not meet Indian men that did not have the soft hands, they were usually not in arrange Marriages. In fact I meet others that got out of them and looking for woman to marry on their own terms.

I would say most of this comes down to more on what standard do you want to live your life. Passive or Assertive.

By the way Didactic do you think the way family structure in the bible verse other cultures is why in the west the family is more towards the nuclear family instead of clan or tribal? The bible is very support the man and wife leaving the nest in Genesis 2 verse 24.

I’m not saying “concentration camp mentality”, but … oh, wait, yes, I am in fact saying that.

Sounds about right. Indian women are MASTERS at playing serious mind games. They are used to the notion that they rule over the house with an iron fist. Now, obviously NAIWALT, but generally speaking, that’s usually how it goes.

It’s a vicious feedback loop: Western men aren’t becoming better either, and they’ve been caught in each other’s dysgenic cycles.

Yep. Western men have to break it. There’s no other way. Most of them will refuse. Some will try, and many will fail. The few that succeed are the ones that will prosper when things finally turn around – and the signs that I’m seeing indicate that this turnaround is already underway.

Nick Land a long while back wrote about an “intelligence shredder” effect in Singapore, but what about a “genetic shredder” effect in most large cities?

Distinct possibility. London and New York F***ing Shitty have certainly turned out that way, in my experience. I used to think that girls in Singapore were beautiful when I lived there back in the day, but when I returned 15 years later after spending time in Russia, I was pretty stunned to realise how sloppy and bad they looked.

The exceptions to this “genetic shredder” rule appear to be strongly homogeneous Slavic and Scandinavian cultures – though Denmark appears to be a major exception to the, uh, exceptions, if that makes the slightest bit of sense.

Things started happening for me, back in the day, when I:
1. Stopped caring what people thought.
2. Didn’t care whether a girl said yes or no. More often that not, #1 kicked in and I flat out didn’t ask.
3. #1 & #2 being true, I’d get them talking and listen.

Yeah. That’s a hard transition to make, but it has to be made nonetheless. The “IDGAF what you think” attitude is difficult to adopt and even harder to implement. But it has to be done.

Like I told my son; if you’re thirsty go get a hooker. You could do that back then.

Absolutely. Getting with a hooker is far from optimal, but it’s probably less dangerous to a man’s mind than porn and almost certainly more dignified.

And, as an added bonus, if you spend any time in Southeast Asia or Eastern Europe – and that Akshay kid obviously comes from a wealthy family and could do exactly that – any hooker that you spend time with will be WAY hotter than even the best-looking girls in India.

Which is a rather sad commentary on the absolute state of things in India, really.

The marriages between Western men and Indian women I’ve seen that are viable as ongoing concerns are the ones in which the men are essentially submissive while also trying not to look submissive.

I’m not saying “concentration camp mentality”, but … oh, wait, yes, I am in fact saying that.

“Western women become ever less desirable by the day.”

It’s a vicious feedback loop: Western men aren’t becoming better either, and they’ve been caught in each other’s dysgenic cycles.

So many times when I’d wander in East London that I’d enter some mid-20s Polish woman’s shop and see her face brighten up merely by looking like what she’d classify as normal …

Ever noticed the “East London scrunch face” that’s endemic to the area?

Nick Land a long while back wrote about an “intelligence shredder” effect in Singapore, but what about a “genetic shredder” effect in most large cities?

Things started happening for me, back in the day, when I:
1. Stopped caring what people thought.
2. Didn’t care whether a girl said yes or no. More often that not, #1 kicked in and I flat out didn’t ask.
3. #1 & #2 being true, I’d get them talking and listen.

Even a simple line like “What do you do with yourself all day?” followed by sipping my beer, and they’d rattle on.

Then walk away.

Like I told my son; if you’re thirsty go get a hooker. You could do that back then.