a – i never asserted that unsweetened teas weren’t valid or that you shouldn’t drink them.
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b – i don’t think you’re half the man my farmer grandfather was. so you can explain to him why drinking sun tea makes him soft.

Hard foods create strong men.

To the original debate: sugar is gay. All teas without sugar/sweetener are valid.

the ‘magic story’ behind Hannukah is about as realistic as rabbinical stories about golems or Islamic djinn crap. The long and short of it was that they celebrated acting like terrorists and refusing to respect or obey yet another host nation’s rules. A habit that has gotten them evicted hundreds of times.

Jews are simply rude guests who refuse to leave after stealing all the snacks, knocking up the host’s daughter, calling the police to get the host arrested for a fight they started, and breaking all the furniture.

And if a host gets pissed off and kicks them out? They scream ‘never again’ and pretend some magical number got murdered.

granted, it has occurred to me that the 1664 recipe from the Jesuit might have been the Catholics corrupting the Han rather than the other way around.
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you can’t watch those Jesuits too closely.

How the Niflheim DID you Whites ever manage to conquer the Earth with such awful taste?!?!?!

ah-hee.
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you know it’s one thing to rip on Ugly Americans ( i do my part to hold up the side ), that’s like a 100 level course. but now you’re not only telling the English they can’t put sugar in their tea ( “one lump or two” ) but you’ve moved on to telling Asians they can’t ice it? this is definitely a 300 level course now. Haiyaaa, Uncle Roger going to be so disappointed in you he’s going to weep for your ancestors.
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https://www.bostonteapartyship.com/tea-blog/one-lump-or-two
“In 1664, Sir Kenelm Digby noted down a recipe for a tea caudle that he had learned from a Jesuit priest returning from China.

“To near a pint of the infusion, take two yolks of new-laid eggs, and beat them very well with as much fine sugar as is sufficient quantity of liquor; when they are very well incorporated, pour your tea upon the eggs and sugar, and stir them well together. So drink it hot.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHnKbqFP5HM
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you wait here for 10 minutes, i’m going to need some popcorn for this nerdwar.

Mate… herbal “tea” is not tea, full stop. That is axiomatic. And that’s before we get to the ruination of tea by adding sugar to it.

Proper tea of the highest grade involves tea leaves and hot water. Nothing beats a good cup of Earl Grey – or, better yet, Darjeeling.

Speaking of mighty wings, have you ever played any of the Ace Combat games? I got the first one (for the original PlayStation) in a Craiglist deal forever ago, and finally fired it up. I am HOOKED. You fly tons of real jets in a fictional world, and do everything from dogfighting to bombing ground targets. They’re closer to After Burner than DCS, but I just wrapped up the fourth game on PS2, have five more to go, and am not tired of them yet. 7 and all of its DLC (including planes from Top Gun: Maverick) was recently on sale for like 20 bucks.

Here’s one of my favorite missions from #4, where you have to bomb a bunch of air bases and hit the deck every so often when the enemy superweapon fires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2PsGs4w4rs