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		By: Dire Badger		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7674&quot;&gt;Didact&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much, I just hope they enjoyed it.

I think I might have to kill off the &#039;free&#039; versions. Like Vox says, people do not value that which they do not have to pay for. I am already ripping stuff off of royal road because it&#039;s packed to the brim with people like...

Well, let&#039;s just say I got a .5 star review on a new book because the picture on my cover didn&#039;t happen in the book &#039;fast enough&#039;. And another one because I mentioned that Lucifer was a &#039;bad guy&#039; and that my MC chewed out a teenage girl for stripping in front of him (Forgetting that he wasn&#039;t a golem anymore).

I think I may ditch Royal Road soon. It&#039;s too full of these kinds of people. I can produce 8 books a year. I loved the free editing, but it&#039;s worth exactly what I paid for it :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7674">Didact</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much, I just hope they enjoyed it.</p>
<p>I think I might have to kill off the &#8216;free&#8217; versions. Like Vox says, people do not value that which they do not have to pay for. I am already ripping stuff off of royal road because it&#8217;s packed to the brim with people like&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, let&#8217;s just say I got a .5 star review on a new book because the picture on my cover didn&#8217;t happen in the book &#8216;fast enough&#8217;. And another one because I mentioned that Lucifer was a &#8216;bad guy&#8217; and that my MC chewed out a teenage girl for stripping in front of him (Forgetting that he wasn&#8217;t a golem anymore).</p>
<p>I think I may ditch Royal Road soon. It&#8217;s too full of these kinds of people. I can produce 8 books a year. I loved the free editing, but it&#8217;s worth exactly what I paid for it 🙂</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7668&quot;&gt;Dire Badger&lt;/a&gt;.

You know, I&#039;m able to track sales of your books on Kindle through my affiliate links - and it seems like someone did buy &lt;i&gt;Murderhobo&#039;s Apprentice&lt;/i&gt;.

Advertising does work))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7668">Dire Badger</a>.</p>
<p>You know, I&#8217;m able to track sales of your books on Kindle through my affiliate links &#8211; and it seems like someone did buy <i>Murderhobo&#8217;s Apprentice</i>.</p>
<p>Advertising does work))</p>
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		By: furor kek tonicus ( Please Santa Putin, nuke Hollyweird and Gay Bay and Sodom on the Potomac and the Rotten Apple ) )		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[furor kek tonicus ( Please Santa Putin, nuke Hollyweird and Gay Bay and Sodom on the Potomac and the Rotten Apple ) )]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7668&quot;&gt;Dire Badger&lt;/a&gt;.

you&#039;d be running in direct opposition to Texas Arcane
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although he said some pretty goofy stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2023/01/what-they-didnt-teach-you-in-sunday-school.html#comment-7668">Dire Badger</a>.</p>
<p>you&#8217;d be running in direct opposition to Texas Arcane<br />
&#8230;<br />
although he said some pretty goofy stuff.</p>
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		By: Dire Badger		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be killing any sacred cows by painting the Neanderthals, who almost wiped out the Human species, as the savage descendants of the Nephilim in a book, would I?]]></description>
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		By: Robert W		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didact,

It is an indictment of the academy of the Church, of every stripe, that we&#039;ve just avoided these &#039;weird&#039; segments for many generations. It is inexplicable given that this &#039;prehistory&#039; topic of study is the one I find the deepest conversations with non-Christians. There&#039;s a yearning in the heart to know where we came from. There&#039;s a deeper yearning to know there is a Father and a King who can overcome the destroyers and bring peace. As Chesterton put it, children do not need to be taught there are monsters, that they know. They need to be taught there is good that overcomes and slays the monsters.

I&#039;ve read two of Hancock&#039;s books, The Fingerprints of the Gods and the Magicians of the Gods. They are lengthy, deeply fascinating stories of investigation and very compelling data comparisons. I was very glad to see this Netflix series come out. It brings his conceptual framework to people who never read books. My wife and I are watching them and it&#039;s wonderful to have another to talk about it with. His work needs to be thought through. I will say the tone in the Netflix series is far more hostile to the Academy than he is in the books. And of course, only the topmost highlights of any given megalithic site are brought to the fore on screen. The books will still be a rewarding read for anyone.

Something that makes Hancock&#039;s work special is that he admits to errors freely. Twenty years after the Fingerprints of the Gods, some of the assumptions he makes were proven wrong. He takes that into account and then changes his proposals. No surprise, the more he makes revisions the closer he gets to Noah&#039;s flood. The man is not ossified or easily deterred.

Because the Christians have neglected this subject for generations, there is a lot of work to do to reconcile the &#039;Christian&#039; view of time with the data pointing to pre-ancient civilizations. Fortunately, there is an intellectual bedrock to work with from previous Christians.

First, the Young Earth Creation Model. For many Christians, this is the only acceptable view. &#039;We believe the bible means what it says and says what it means!&quot; is the rallying cry. Inspiring Philosophy did a dynamite analysis and teardown on this subject. It is a new and unstable floor to stand on, it is not the bedrock of biblical exegesis. He shows its roots in some Seventh-Day Adventist sects about a century ago: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcNTAi0Cw4

Second, prosecuting attorney Ryan Pitterson makes a relentless case that the ending of Nephilim was a primary motive of the entire Old Testament story. In his book The Judgement of the Nephilim, he shows the culmination is with King David and his heir Jesus Christ. David ends the Giants, the remnant of the Nephilim (although not fully ended until Ester) and Jesus conquers their spiritual offspring, the demons. Pitterson doesn&#039;t quote very many modern scholars, although you will find Heiser. He quotes dozens of 1800&#039;s era Puritan/Protestant preachers who were fluent with the Nephilim in the Old Testament. I don&#039;t know why this vein of thought left the Church. More to learn, always. 
https://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Nephilim-Ryan-Pitterson/dp/0999208306

Third, what can we do with the Adam &#038; Eve creation account, and the timeline of Abraham, and pre-ancient civilizations? Can all exist within the same timeline? Can the pre-ancients pre-exist Adam &#038; Eve? Are there grounds to read the Genesis account as two different stories in Chapters 1 &#038; 2?

There is an elegant and comprehensive model for this, and it comes by the way of Dr. Joshua Swamidas. It is found in his book The Genealogical Adam and Eve: The Surprising Science of Universal Ancestry. Dr. Swamidas does a two-part interview with Heiser: https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-356-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve-part-1/

His insight is that the bible tells the story of ancestry and lineage, not genetic descendants. The ancients neither knew nor cared about genetics. They did care about fathers and sons. To read the bible accurately requires moving out of the western enlightenment worldview and into an ancient near east worldview.

There is strong precedent to read Gen 1&#038;2 as two separate accounts. Many Church scholars have done so, including Augustine. When you separate them, it is plausible that there were &#039;homo sapiens&#039; produced in chapter 1. They were capable of reproduction and greater than all the other critters of creation. Then in chapter 2, Adam and Eve were shaped specially and set to be the high priests of Yahweh in his throne room on earth. From the Garden of Eden, they were to bring Yahweh&#039;s order and peace to the rest of the earth.

In this model, there is room for vast pre-ancient civilizations and divine rebellions, for a divine plan to redeem creation through Adam and the sons of Adam. When the homo sapiens and the sons of Adam begin to mingle, there is a timeline where all the descendants can share a universal common ancestor. There would be no more homo sapiens without Adam&#039;s line within them. There&#039;s some complexity to it, but the coming of Christ coincides very tightly with the timing of the universal common ancestor Adam. Jesus comes for the sons of Adam, all of them, and he is the new Adam for the new creation to come with his return. 
https://www.ivpress.com/the-genealogical-adam-and-eve

Is that the final solution for the timeline of truth conquering the mask of lies? I don&#039;t know, probably not. But in the same way the red pill manosphere dismantled the feminist smokescreen, this pre-ancient civilization restructuring of our common framework is well underway.

For Christians finding obstinate disinterest from their brethren, Bible Project has an artful and deeply insightful series on Spiritual Beings in the bible. Heiser was part of the development, and the 21 hours of podcast conversations backing up the 20 minutes of clips are full of insight. 
Consider it a TL;DR for people who won&#039;t take the time to read anything on this, also great for children. 
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH0Szn1yYNeef2AIszbltRK15dgoxA_57]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didact,</p>
<p>It is an indictment of the academy of the Church, of every stripe, that we&#8217;ve just avoided these &#8216;weird&#8217; segments for many generations. It is inexplicable given that this &#8216;prehistory&#8217; topic of study is the one I find the deepest conversations with non-Christians. There&#8217;s a yearning in the heart to know where we came from. There&#8217;s a deeper yearning to know there is a Father and a King who can overcome the destroyers and bring peace. As Chesterton put it, children do not need to be taught there are monsters, that they know. They need to be taught there is good that overcomes and slays the monsters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read two of Hancock&#8217;s books, The Fingerprints of the Gods and the Magicians of the Gods. They are lengthy, deeply fascinating stories of investigation and very compelling data comparisons. I was very glad to see this Netflix series come out. It brings his conceptual framework to people who never read books. My wife and I are watching them and it&#8217;s wonderful to have another to talk about it with. His work needs to be thought through. I will say the tone in the Netflix series is far more hostile to the Academy than he is in the books. And of course, only the topmost highlights of any given megalithic site are brought to the fore on screen. The books will still be a rewarding read for anyone.</p>
<p>Something that makes Hancock&#8217;s work special is that he admits to errors freely. Twenty years after the Fingerprints of the Gods, some of the assumptions he makes were proven wrong. He takes that into account and then changes his proposals. No surprise, the more he makes revisions the closer he gets to Noah&#8217;s flood. The man is not ossified or easily deterred.</p>
<p>Because the Christians have neglected this subject for generations, there is a lot of work to do to reconcile the &#8216;Christian&#8217; view of time with the data pointing to pre-ancient civilizations. Fortunately, there is an intellectual bedrock to work with from previous Christians.</p>
<p>First, the Young Earth Creation Model. For many Christians, this is the only acceptable view. &#8216;We believe the bible means what it says and says what it means!&#8221; is the rallying cry. Inspiring Philosophy did a dynamite analysis and teardown on this subject. It is a new and unstable floor to stand on, it is not the bedrock of biblical exegesis. He shows its roots in some Seventh-Day Adventist sects about a century ago:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcNTAi0Cw4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcNTAi0Cw4</a></p>
<p>Second, prosecuting attorney Ryan Pitterson makes a relentless case that the ending of Nephilim was a primary motive of the entire Old Testament story. In his book The Judgement of the Nephilim, he shows the culmination is with King David and his heir Jesus Christ. David ends the Giants, the remnant of the Nephilim (although not fully ended until Ester) and Jesus conquers their spiritual offspring, the demons. Pitterson doesn&#8217;t quote very many modern scholars, although you will find Heiser. He quotes dozens of 1800&#8217;s era Puritan/Protestant preachers who were fluent with the Nephilim in the Old Testament. I don&#8217;t know why this vein of thought left the Church. More to learn, always.<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Nephilim-Ryan-Pitterson/dp/0999208306" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Nephilim-Ryan-Pitterson/dp/0999208306</a></p>
<p>Third, what can we do with the Adam &amp; Eve creation account, and the timeline of Abraham, and pre-ancient civilizations? Can all exist within the same timeline? Can the pre-ancients pre-exist Adam &amp; Eve? Are there grounds to read the Genesis account as two different stories in Chapters 1 &amp; 2?</p>
<p>There is an elegant and comprehensive model for this, and it comes by the way of Dr. Joshua Swamidas. It is found in his book The Genealogical Adam and Eve: The Surprising Science of Universal Ancestry. Dr. Swamidas does a two-part interview with Heiser: <a href="https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-356-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve-part-1/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-356-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve-part-1/</a></p>
<p>His insight is that the bible tells the story of ancestry and lineage, not genetic descendants. The ancients neither knew nor cared about genetics. They did care about fathers and sons. To read the bible accurately requires moving out of the western enlightenment worldview and into an ancient near east worldview.</p>
<p>There is strong precedent to read Gen 1&amp;2 as two separate accounts. Many Church scholars have done so, including Augustine. When you separate them, it is plausible that there were &#8216;homo sapiens&#8217; produced in chapter 1. They were capable of reproduction and greater than all the other critters of creation. Then in chapter 2, Adam and Eve were shaped specially and set to be the high priests of Yahweh in his throne room on earth. From the Garden of Eden, they were to bring Yahweh&#8217;s order and peace to the rest of the earth.</p>
<p>In this model, there is room for vast pre-ancient civilizations and divine rebellions, for a divine plan to redeem creation through Adam and the sons of Adam. When the homo sapiens and the sons of Adam begin to mingle, there is a timeline where all the descendants can share a universal common ancestor. There would be no more homo sapiens without Adam&#8217;s line within them. There&#8217;s some complexity to it, but the coming of Christ coincides very tightly with the timing of the universal common ancestor Adam. Jesus comes for the sons of Adam, all of them, and he is the new Adam for the new creation to come with his return.<br />
<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-genealogical-adam-and-eve" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ivpress.com/the-genealogical-adam-and-eve</a></p>
<p>Is that the final solution for the timeline of truth conquering the mask of lies? I don&#8217;t know, probably not. But in the same way the red pill manosphere dismantled the feminist smokescreen, this pre-ancient civilization restructuring of our common framework is well underway.</p>
<p>For Christians finding obstinate disinterest from their brethren, Bible Project has an artful and deeply insightful series on Spiritual Beings in the bible. Heiser was part of the development, and the 21 hours of podcast conversations backing up the 20 minutes of clips are full of insight.<br />
Consider it a TL;DR for people who won&#8217;t take the time to read anything on this, also great for children.<br />
<a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH0Szn1yYNeef2AIszbltRK15dgoxA_57" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH0Szn1yYNeef2AIszbltRK15dgoxA_57</a></p>
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