If the Greeks laughed it was because they were way ahead of the Christians.

On what basis do you measure the relative advancement of the Greeks against the early Christians?

What’s below is from the great Christian scholar Manly P Hall.

As far as I can tell, Manly Palmer Hall was a Freemason, an esotericist, and an occultist. This makes him about as “Christian” as your average Mormon, Muslim, Talmudic Jew, or Jehovah’s Witness, and considerably less so than even most Gnostic heretics.

Furthermore, before I’m going to take anything you quote from him seriously, you’ll need to answer the following questions:

• Do any of the aforementioned religious figures have actual historical standing? The existence, and especially the crucifixion, of Jesus Christ, are regarded even by atheist historians as the most solid and well-established facts about His life and ministry, and indeed as among the most reliable facts in all of human history.
• Buddha does have historical standing. So, when were the first books about the life and teachings of the Buddha – specifically, Siddhartha Gautama – published? Were they published within a few decades of his life, or centuries later?
• When does the legend of Attis, or for that matter Quetzalcoatl, show up in history – before, or centuries after, Christ’s death?
• Did the legends of Horus, Prometheus, or any other ancient god, involve actual substitionary sacrifice in the name of all Mankind? Examine the legend of Prometheus carefully, for instance, and you’ll find MUCH more in common with the story of Lucifer than of Christ.
• How do you reconcile the notion that the Greeks “were way ahead of the Christians” with the specific narrative of Acts 17?
• Krishna in particular is specifically worshipped as an avatar of Vishnu, one of the Hindu divine trinity. On what basis can you support the claim that Hall makes that he died via crucifixion, given that most Hindus accept and agree that he died from an arrow through his foot, and his death presaged the coming of the Kali Yuga?

The martyrdom of the God-Man and the redemption of the world through His blood has been an essential tenet of many great religions.

Oh, really? Then why was the message of the Gospel repeatedly rejected wherever it was introduced, including in India, where people had much the same attitude as the Greeks did?

Again, these questions have to be answered before anything you quoted above can be taken seriously.

What’s below is from the great Christian scholar Manly P Hall.

Thus the esotericism of pagandom was embodied in Christianity,
although its keys are lost. The Christian church blindly follows ancient customs, and when asked for a
reason gives superficial and unsatisfactory explanations, either forgetting or ignoring the indisputable
fact that each religion is based upon the secret doctrines of its predecessor.

From a consideration of all these ancient and secret rituals it becomes evident that the mystery of the
dying god was universal among the illumined and venerated colleges of the sacred teaching. This
mystery has been perpetuated in Christianity in the crucifixion and death of the God-man-Jesus the
Christ. The secret import of this world tragedy and the Universal Martyr must be rediscovered if
Christianity is to reach the heights attained by the pagans in the days of their philosophic supremacy.
The myth of the dying god is the key to both universal and individual redemption and regeneration,
and those who do not comprehend the true nature of this supreme allegory are not privileged to
consider themselves either wise or truly religious.

In Phrygia there existed a remarkable school of religious philosophy which centered around the life
and untimely fate of another Savior-God known as Atys, or Attis, by many considered synonymous
with Adonis. This deity was born at midnight on the 24th day of December.

Atys remained three days in the tomb,
rose upon a date corresponding with Easter morn, and by this resurrection overcame death for all
who were initiated into his Mysteries.

The list of the deathless mortals who suffered for man that he might receive the boon of eternal life is
an imposing one. Among those connected historically or allegorically with a crucifixion are
Prometheus, Adonis, Apollo, Arys, Bacchus, Buddha, Christna, Horus, Indra, Ixion, Mithras, Osiris,
Pythagoras, Quetzalcoatl, Semiramis, and Jupiter. According to the fragmentary accounts extant, all
these heroes gave their lives to the service of humanity and, with one or two exceptions, died as
martyrs for the cause of human progress.

The prevalent idea that the reverence for the cross is limited to the Christian world is disproved by
even the most superficial investigation of its place in religious symbolism. The early Christians used
every means possible to conceal the pagan origin of their symbols, doctrines, and rituals. They either
destroyed the sacred books of other peoples among whom they settled, or made them inaccessible to
students of comparative philosophy, apparently believing that in this way they could stamp out all
record of the pre-Christian origin of their doctrines.

Saviors unnumbered have died for the sins of man and by the hands of man, and through their deaths
have interceded in heaven for the souls of their executioners. The martyrdom of the God-Man and the
redemption of the world through His blood has been an essential tenet of many great religions.

Hall understood his religion and where it came from. Do you?

a) and b): As I proposed, they were tricked or are lying?
c) and d): CG?

You could successfully trick tens of thousands with a brilliant plan, billions of dollars, and a few extremely talented in-the-know’s at the highest levels.

Why have we never (as far as we know) been back in 52 years?!

And didn’t NASA admit that humans cannot survive the Van Allens? Or is that one layer of several layers of deflection and disinfo…?

Reading between lifts and love the simplicity of the arguments and answers. You are correct about focusing on the simple answers or less complex solutions to the answers.

Thank you very much.

One item of contention. Your comparison between Islam and Christianity needs a different tact. With Islam you subject the man to analysis where with Christianity you cover the philosophic reason for Christ.

Fair point. I have in fact covered the difference between the two men in a podcast some time ago. I intend to continue unpacking the differences between the book and the man (to quote Dr. Jay Smith)

Reading between lifts and love the simplicity of the arguments and answers. You are correct about focusing on the simple answers or less complex solutions to the answers.

One item of contention. Your comparison between Islam and Christianity needs a different tact. With Islam you subject the man to analysis where with Christianity you cover the philosophic reason for Christ.

There’s no reason why God chose Mohammed, even as simple as God chose Paul – or if so that should be the focus of the analysis. Another route would be to analyze the man-God Jesus and compare to man-Prophet Mohammed.

Just curious if your approach would change.

Thanks for the weekly reads. Keeps the mind fresh.

Possibly. But then how do we explain:
a) the testimony of Russian astronauts, who spent significant amounts of time on the Salyut and Mir space stations;
b) the testimony of American astronauts who spent time on the old Skylab space station;
c) ALL of the video evidence from the space shuttles that brought astronauts to the space stations;
d) the current feeds from the ISS;

Furthermore, the idea that NASA was a complete fraud, depends on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people staying schtum about a very big secret. This is unlikely, to say the least.

You state that it’s a “fact that astronauts floating in multiple space stations over something like 50 years have all seen a globe rotating beneath them…”

Isn’t there now significant evidence that man has never actually left low-Earth orbit, implying that NASA is a fraud and that those astronauts were tricked or are liars?