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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-577</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know any more than anyone else does about this specific incident, but from what I&#039;ve read Captain Crozier did attempt to go to his immediate chain of command. When nothing was done, he went higher (up the chain of command). His letter was leaked...not by him. If he used the means communication he would typically use for  Navy leadership (I see no reason to believe he used a different means of communication), he seems to me to have satisfied his due diligence. It&#039;s up to his superiors to decide if it was warranted. Sometimes one has to die on one&#039;s sword. If you&#039;ve watched Band of Brothers and saw the point where the first shirt went to Winters with a concern about Lt Dikes, you saw someone going over the chain of command. Those kind of judgement calls are what leadership is about....or a sharp Lt could do a captain&#039;s job (or just AI programed to follow  all rules)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know any more than anyone else does about this specific incident, but from what I&#39;ve read Captain Crozier did attempt to go to his immediate chain of command. When nothing was done, he went higher (up the chain of command). His letter was leaked&#8230;not by him. If he used the means communication he would typically use for  Navy leadership (I see no reason to believe he used a different means of communication), he seems to me to have satisfied his due diligence. It&#39;s up to his superiors to decide if it was warranted. Sometimes one has to die on one&#39;s sword. If you&#39;ve watched Band of Brothers and saw the point where the first shirt went to Winters with a concern about Lt Dikes, you saw someone going over the chain of command. Those kind of judgement calls are what leadership is about&#8230;.or a sharp Lt could do a captain&#39;s job (or just AI programed to follow  all rules)</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-576</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-574&quot;&gt;furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )&lt;/a&gt;.

The ones that lacked this mindset often didn&#039;t make it through the Obama administration.

That&#039;s my understanding as well. I&#039;ve heard from multiple sources that the actual warrior types who understand what real fighting is, were &#034;encouraged&#034; to leave the military from practically every branch of the Armed Forces during President Lightworker&#039;s misbegotten reign. And this really crippled the military&#039;s ability to fight actual wars.

As for our carrier groups, truth is they need to be Stateside and not policing the planet. Its better for everyone.

Well, the entire point of a CBG is to project vast amounts of force across distant seas, so having 11 carriers operating off the American shoreline kind of defeats the purpose.

Hypersonic missiles have already rendered the entire concept of the supercarrier nearly obsolete, though, so those 11 carriers aren&#039;t going to be around for all that long. It will only take one or two combat losses of those giant floating cities to drive the message home, hard.

Dealing with China and the myriad of critical security issues means making most stuff here and an end to cheap labor of any kind.

Agreed. One very good thing about Corona-chan is that she has made it extremely obvious that the Chinese - both the government AND the people - cannot be trusted and should be treated as open enemies of the USA and the Western world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-574">furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )</a>.</p>
<p>The ones that lacked this mindset often didn&#39;t make it through the Obama administration.</p>
<p>That&#39;s my understanding as well. I&#39;ve heard from multiple sources that the actual warrior types who understand what real fighting is, were &quot;encouraged&quot; to leave the military from practically every branch of the Armed Forces during President Lightworker&#39;s misbegotten reign. And this really crippled the military&#39;s ability to fight actual wars.</p>
<p>As for our carrier groups, truth is they need to be Stateside and not policing the planet. Its better for everyone.</p>
<p>Well, the entire point of a CBG is to project vast amounts of force across distant seas, so having 11 carriers operating off the American shoreline kind of defeats the purpose.</p>
<p>Hypersonic missiles have already rendered the entire concept of the supercarrier nearly obsolete, though, so those 11 carriers aren&#39;t going to be around for all that long. It will only take one or two combat losses of those giant floating cities to drive the message home, hard.</p>
<p>Dealing with China and the myriad of critical security issues means making most stuff here and an end to cheap labor of any kind.</p>
<p>Agreed. One very good thing about Corona-chan is that she has made it extremely obvious that the Chinese &#8211; both the government AND the people &#8211; cannot be trusted and should be treated as open enemies of the USA and the Western world.</p>
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		By: A.B. Prosper		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-575</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-574&quot;&gt;furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )&lt;/a&gt;.

The upper echelon in the military is  almost entirely modern college graduates which should tell you something. 

The ones that lacked this mindset often didn&#039;t make  it through the Obama administration.

Also anyone  25 and under has never lived in a world without fairly ubiquitous internet and has had smart phones since they were very young.   

Making procedures that take that mindset into account is critical. 

As for our carrier groups, truth is they need to be Stateside and not policing the planet. Its better for everyone.

Dealing with China  and the myriad  of  critical security issues  means making most stuff here and an  end to cheap labor of any kind.

This will be resisted to the last as Capital. pardon my use of Commie talk, hates paying wages and a lot of them wpuld rather burn the place down than budge.

They&#039;ll have to be made to budge and I don&#039;t see that happening. 

If the US  to have any functioning 1st world country after this mess and you know people are to have enough  money for family formation and urban life we had better get to work as a nation that can&#039;t make its own comms or  its  own antibiotics  is functionally a satrapy of our nearest rival, China.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-574">furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )</a>.</p>
<p>The upper echelon in the military is  almost entirely modern college graduates which should tell you something. </p>
<p>The ones that lacked this mindset often didn&#39;t make  it through the Obama administration.</p>
<p>Also anyone  25 and under has never lived in a world without fairly ubiquitous internet and has had smart phones since they were very young.   </p>
<p>Making procedures that take that mindset into account is critical. </p>
<p>As for our carrier groups, truth is they need to be Stateside and not policing the planet. Its better for everyone.</p>
<p>Dealing with China  and the myriad  of  critical security issues  means making most stuff here and an  end to cheap labor of any kind.</p>
<p>This will be resisted to the last as Capital. pardon my use of Commie talk, hates paying wages and a lot of them wpuld rather burn the place down than budge.</p>
<p>They&#39;ll have to be made to budge and I don&#39;t see that happening. </p>
<p>If the US  to have any functioning 1st world country after this mess and you know people are to have enough  money for family formation and urban life we had better get to work as a nation that can&#39;t make its own comms or  its  own antibiotics  is functionally a satrapy of our nearest rival, China.</p>
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		By: furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[even if the phones were made in the USA, i cannot for the life of me figure out how the phones weren&#039;t banned as soon as they achieved &#034;smartphone&#034; capability.  

you&#039;ve got a ship with a staff of nearly 5000, a large part of which is a cohort which is 18-25 years old.

you&#039;re going to give ALL of these people a spying multi-tool and expect that stupid things aren&#039;t going to happen?  you think you&#039;re going to have any operational security at all?  what.  in.  the. hell. is going on?

&#034;Loose Lips Sink Ships&#034; has been a catchphrase since WW2 ...

it&#039;s like the upper echelon of command is full of OK Boomers or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even if the phones were made in the USA, i cannot for the life of me figure out how the phones weren&#39;t banned as soon as they achieved &quot;smartphone&quot; capability.  </p>
<p>you&#39;ve got a ship with a staff of nearly 5000, a large part of which is a cohort which is 18-25 years old.</p>
<p>you&#39;re going to give ALL of these people a spying multi-tool and expect that stupid things aren&#39;t going to happen?  you think you&#39;re going to have any operational security at all?  what.  in.  the. hell. is going on?</p>
<p>&quot;Loose Lips Sink Ships&quot; has been a catchphrase since WW2 &#8230;</p>
<p>it&#39;s like the upper echelon of command is full of OK Boomers or something.</p>
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		By: Post Alley Crackpot		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-573</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I prefer a sharpened bicycle chain for this purpose, BTW.

Imparts a new meaning to the phrase &#034;bloody minded&#034;.   :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer a sharpened bicycle chain for this purpose, BTW.</p>
<p>Imparts a new meaning to the phrase &quot;bloody minded&quot;.   🙂</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-571&quot;&gt;furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )&lt;/a&gt;.

it would appear that servicemen are NOT surrendering their cell phones prior to boarding ship
...
many or most of these cell phones being made in China
...
and have to be expected to have backdoors implemented in hardware
...
and every one of which can record audio, video, access internet and supply GPS coords down to 1 meter resolution.

That is an excellent point. Something like 90% of the world&#039;s mobile phones are made in China. And at this point, I trust the Chinese - not just the government, but the people as well - about as much as I trust a coyote in a chicken-coop.

It was a colossal mistake to outsource everything to China, which was once a bastion of civilisation and culture but has now proven, over the past 50 years or so, to be a very real enemy of that which is good, beautiful, and true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2020/04/chainbreaker.html#comment-571">furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )</a>.</p>
<p>it would appear that servicemen are NOT surrendering their cell phones prior to boarding ship<br />
&#8230;<br />
many or most of these cell phones being made in China<br />
&#8230;<br />
and have to be expected to have backdoors implemented in hardware<br />
&#8230;<br />
and every one of which can record audio, video, access internet and supply GPS coords down to 1 meter resolution.</p>
<p>That is an excellent point. Something like 90% of the world&#39;s mobile phones are made in China. And at this point, I trust the Chinese &#8211; not just the government, but the people as well &#8211; about as much as I trust a coyote in a chicken-coop.</p>
<p>It was a colossal mistake to outsource everything to China, which was once a bastion of civilisation and culture but has now proven, over the past 50 years or so, to be a very real enemy of that which is good, beautiful, and true.</p>
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		By: furor kek tonicus ( yo, LeBron.  you&#039;re worth 500 mill, move to Africa and you could be a kangz )		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2020 08:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OpSec is at least as important as Chain of Command.

and telling the entire planet that ( at least ) 1 of 11 strategic nuclear carriers is incapable of conducting the most basic warfighting operations is ... suboptimal, to say the least.

thus, the SecNav had justification to fire the captain.

unfortunately, he also chose to shit all over the outgoing commander while he was in the process of firing him.

question:
who was responsible for installing Crozier as captain?  and permitted him to remain there?

IF Crozier is so blatantly and obviously unsuited for command
THEN what does that say about the competence or lack thereof from the superiors who vested him with authority?

not to mention that it&#039;s rather a bad look to shit on an officer for &#034;caring too much about his men&#034;.

OTOH, given the ease with which the message of the SecNav got leaked to public the very same day he gave it?

*facedesk*

it would appear that servicemen are NOT surrendering their cell phones prior to boarding ship
...
many or most of these cell phones being made in China
...
and have to be expected to have backdoors implemented in hardware
...
and every one of which can record audio, video, access internet and supply GPS coords down to 1 meter resolution.

how in the hell has this been permitted to happen?

the Bill Whittle boys cover some of this:
 billwhittle.com/carrier-commander-fired-as-naive-or-stupid-navy-secretary-says-hold-my-beer/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpSec is at least as important as Chain of Command.</p>
<p>and telling the entire planet that ( at least ) 1 of 11 strategic nuclear carriers is incapable of conducting the most basic warfighting operations is &#8230; suboptimal, to say the least.</p>
<p>thus, the SecNav had justification to fire the captain.</p>
<p>unfortunately, he also chose to shit all over the outgoing commander while he was in the process of firing him.</p>
<p>question:<br />
who was responsible for installing Crozier as captain?  and permitted him to remain there?</p>
<p>IF Crozier is so blatantly and obviously unsuited for command<br />
THEN what does that say about the competence or lack thereof from the superiors who vested him with authority?</p>
<p>not to mention that it&#39;s rather a bad look to shit on an officer for &quot;caring too much about his men&quot;.</p>
<p>OTOH, given the ease with which the message of the SecNav got leaked to public the very same day he gave it?</p>
<p>*facedesk*</p>
<p>it would appear that servicemen are NOT surrendering their cell phones prior to boarding ship<br />
&#8230;<br />
many or most of these cell phones being made in China<br />
&#8230;<br />
and have to be expected to have backdoors implemented in hardware<br />
&#8230;<br />
and every one of which can record audio, video, access internet and supply GPS coords down to 1 meter resolution.</p>
<p>how in the hell has this been permitted to happen?</p>
<p>the Bill Whittle boys cover some of this:<br />
 billwhittle.com/carrier-commander-fired-as-naive-or-stupid-navy-secretary-says-hold-my-beer/</p>
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