It is an ideology entirely based on the intention to surrender to the left.

That is why the cuckservative pearl-clutchers spend more energy agonizing over Trump being impolite than his actual results.

"That is true, sir. But the question that a lot of us on the Right have is: what will it take for conservatives to finally say "enough"?"

The above sentence is what I was trying to articulate by using the Epstein example. It was such a brazen "fuck you" from whoever offed him that they KNEW there would be no response or effective backlash. The act was committed so flagrantly that it would raise the blood of any morally righteous person. When is enough….enough?

To put things into perspective, I'm not an American, hell I'm not even white. I live half way across the world in a shithole country, but I am part of the "we" and my blood is up.

Yes, sortakinda. Yes, we're the frog in the pan of water and things have been, are being, and will continue to be eroded. It's unfortunate, of course, but we're lucky that the left never knows how high to turn up the heat. They always turn it up, too high, and then the frogs elect Trump who is, interestingly enough, rolling back some of the left's gains, will continue to do so, and, presuming a second term, which I think likely, will do still more. Who do you think elected him?

That said, no, once the war starts we'll never go back to being the same country, any more than we were after the civil war. Thing will change.

This, however, doesn't mean they'll change for the worse. Make a list of 25 things you think the US would be better off with and without. somewhere between 20 and all 25 will likely show up as amendments after the war.

It does, however, have a number of anti-philosophical streams – what we might call negative philosophy – ranging from "Don't Tread on Me" to "I've had just about enough," both of which figured prominently in our rebellion and counterrevolution against, and secession from, the British Empire.

That is true, sir. But the question that a lot of us on the Right have is: what will it take for conservatives to finally say "enough"?

The Founders and two-thirds of the original colonists were in a fighting mood after something like twenty-five years of abuses and usurpations of their rights. The current generation of Americans has seen their rights eroded over about four times that amount of time, and those violations are far, far more egregious.

Yet there has been almost nothing done to roll back the size and scale of government, even when conservatives are in power.

An armed populace appears to be intimidating only to those who seek to take away the people's right to keep and bear arms – but restrictions on other rights pass easily.

That is why I reckon that, when the war finally comes, conservatives will pay a truly terrible price – because the country that they thought they were conserving will simply have changed far too much for them to recognise, no matter how heavily armed they are.

It only takes one side to start a war. And given that mass migration eventually results in war, as Martin Van Creveld pointed out, and also given that the size and scale of such wars is directly proportional to the size and scale of the immigration involved, we are looking at a catastrophic war in the USA and in the Western world sometime within the next fifty years.

When you combine this with the fact that purely paper currencies last, on average, about 75 years, then we are looking at war in our lifetimes.

These are not my conclusions. Our beloved and dreaded Supreme Dark Lord (PBUH) Vox Day has made these points repeatedly over the past 10 years. Given his track record of predicting things reasonably correctly over a long time-span, I take his predictions on such things pretty seriously.

Case in point, the Epstein "suicide", every fucking person with a TV, functional internet connection and half a brain could see what was coming.

Umm… How does Epstein's case relate to what I was talking about?

Also, keep in mind that conservatives do not populate the US government bureaucracy. Most conservatives have an intense dislike for government and don't want to get involved with it. Nor was there ever any guarantee that simply having conservatives around would result in Epstein's safety.

Whatever happened to the man, it is quite clear that he didn't commit suicide on his own. Did it happen because of Clinton, Inc.? We'll find out sooner or later.

Cheers, thanks.

It does, however, have a number of anti-philosophical streams – what we might call negative philosophy – ranging from "Don't Tread on Me" to "I've had just about enough," both of which figured prominently in our rebellion and counterrevolution against, and secession from, the British Empire.

I was discussing the upcoming war via email with a Brit Army friend of mine:

"One wonders what would shock the soft left more, the nature of the hard left, or the nature of the hard right. They spout a good deal of propaganda about the right, but if they believed a tenth of it they'd be too afraid ever to leave the house. When they found out that their propaganda understated the reality, when they understood how much they're hated, and when they understood that doubleplusungood, evil, wicked, mean, nasty, "assault weapons" weren't the half of it… The British have, I think, a reluctance to burn down the house to kill a flea. Maybe it derives from a new, not traditionally British distaste for violence. We don't generally share either. We _will_ burn down the house to get a flea, provided it's somebody else's house and we can be sure of getting the flea.

Our "militias" were more multifaceted than that. They began, I think, with the Minuteman movement in the 60s, that being, near as I can tell, a spinoff of the John Birch Society, though not closely affiliated with it. The Minutemen were surprisingly seriously armed, though not always realistically armed. WW II tanks for guerillas? Maybe not so useful. However, they had a great deal more than a few tanks: mortars, machine guns, bazookas and 3.5" rocket launchers, for example. Maybe more importantly, the tools and literature to make more and ammunition for what they made. I never had the impression that the Minutemen were as well infiltrated as either the JBS or the Reds. Then there was the Jewish Defense League, a kind of Zionist militia, which was dangerous as fuck and had remarkably little loyalty to or faith in the United States. They, I understand, raided national guard armories for arms and were responsible for at least a couple of murders. The Clinton era saw the rise of private militias, mostly in response to various gun control initiatives. They passed when the assault weapons ban did, and were never really serious or competent or large. There were however, and here I suspect spin offs and residue of the Minutemen, a lot of far more serious groups who never made CNN, and never tried to, were armed to the teeth, and were in deadly earnest about being ready for a civil war. Those, I suspect, still exist. I think our local group dropped me a subtle invite, which I ignored, via our secretary. And then there were the racist groups, KKK, ANSP, and various black ones.

There's another factor in there two, or rather a combination of factors. De Tocqueville waxed fairly enthusiastic over the American ability to self organize quickly and well. It's still kind of true. Given that, our level of individual arms (and remember, we have a huge number of machine guns and cannon, mortars and light ATW, likewise, in private hands), and our still pretty high military participation ratio (high as compared with most of the west), AND the existence of rather serious, not looking for publicity, militias…well…it could spin ugly fast. "
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Epstein was a prize catch to Conservative Inc, he should have been protected at all costs. Where were the alt right, conservatives, nationalists etc? Certainly not pulling 24hr sentry duty outside the MCC. Definitely not recording persons entering and leaving the facility. They did not create a din, shine a spotlight or demand a daily report of his prison conditions. God forbid that they should do anything uncivil
There was however a metric shit ton of youtube videos and blogposts about his upcoming court case. But fuck all done on the ground.

Excuse my cynicism, but I just dont see it happening.