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		By: John E. Boyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E. Boyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2018/09/the-stench-of-sulphur.html#comment-1962&quot;&gt;Tom Kratman&lt;/a&gt;.

Appropriate?  Yes, indeed.]]></description>
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<p>Appropriate?  Yes, indeed.</p>
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		By: Tom Kratman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2018/09/the-stench-of-sulphur.html#comment-1962&quot;&gt;Tom Kratman&lt;/a&gt;.

I wasn&#039;t actually being traditional.  Impalement never caught on, as far as I know, in western Christendom.   It does seem appropriate,
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<p>I wasn&#39;t actually being traditional.  Impalement never caught on, as far as I know, in western Christendom.   It does seem appropriate,<br />
 though, no?</p>
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		By: John E. Boyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E. Boyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2018 20:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2018/09/the-stench-of-sulphur.html#comment-1962&quot;&gt;Tom Kratman&lt;/a&gt;.

Mr. Kratman: For some reason, I had thought that burning at the stake was the traditional punishment for child molesters; thanks for pointing that out.  I notice that impalement was also used to execute witches and women guilty of infanticide, so there would probably be an uproar from the feminists if we were to start impaling these monsters.  Oh well. 

I&#039;ve encountered people who ought to know better who refer to the priests who have done these things as victims.  No, they have given themselves over to evil in direct defiance of our Lord&#039;s Words.  They&#039;re monsters, and they stink of the infernal.]]></description>
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<p>Mr. Kratman: For some reason, I had thought that burning at the stake was the traditional punishment for child molesters; thanks for pointing that out.  I notice that impalement was also used to execute witches and women guilty of infanticide, so there would probably be an uproar from the feminists if we were to start impaling these monsters.  Oh well. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve encountered people who ought to know better who refer to the priests who have done these things as victims.  No, they have given themselves over to evil in direct defiance of our Lord&#39;s Words.  They&#39;re monsters, and they stink of the infernal.</p>
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		By: Tom Kratman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Kratman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2018/09/the-stench-of-sulphur.html#comment-1962&quot;&gt;Tom Kratman&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, sure, no reason to just jump right in.  However, one notes that a lot of the problems, the sexual problems, with Holy Mother Church, even if she&#039;s not as holy as she ought to be, came in with throwing open the doors to priesthood to a lot of highly questionable characters, _precisely_ because we couldn&#039;t get enough priests with celibacy.  If we can pry that open, and following a very large auto-de-fe, we might be able to populate the church with decent men again.  I&#039;d consider it myself, actually.]]></description>
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<p>Oh, sure, no reason to just jump right in.  However, one notes that a lot of the problems, the sexual problems, with Holy Mother Church, even if she&#39;s not as holy as she ought to be, came in with throwing open the doors to priesthood to a lot of highly questionable characters, _precisely_ because we couldn&#39;t get enough priests with celibacy.  If we can pry that open, and following a very large auto-de-fe, we might be able to populate the church with decent men again.  I&#39;d consider it myself, actually.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2018 07:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2018/09/the-stench-of-sulphur.html#comment-1962&quot;&gt;Tom Kratman&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom:

regarding parish wives  :) Yeah I can imagine how the bake sales and parish offices would become
 I concour that the issue of married priest could be looked into. the canonist Ed Peters has been open to the idea but like the pruudent lawyer he is, he wants lots safeguards and thought put into it.]]></description>
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<p>Tom:</p>
<p>regarding parish wives  🙂 Yeah I can imagine how the bake sales and parish offices would become<br />
 I concour that the issue of married priest could be looked into. the canonist Ed Peters has been open to the idea but like the pruudent lawyer he is, he wants lots safeguards and thought put into it.</p>
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		By: Tom Kratman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and impalement, not crucifixion, is the proper punishment for kiddie diddlers.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and impalement, not crucifixion, is the proper punishment for kiddie diddlers.</p>
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		By: Tom Kratman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Celibacy isn&#039;t as universal as that.  There are various eastern rite Catholic churches - in full communion with Rome, in other words - where it&#039;s not required.  For that matter, married Anglicans - presuming they&#039;re among that minority of Anglican clerics who actually, you know, believe in God - can swim the Tiber and take their wives with them.  

Here&#039;s the thing, celibacy isn&#039;t about purity; it&#039;s about _property_.  There&#039;s a huge amount of potentially transferable wealth in the Church and we don&#039;t want people passing it on to their kids.  

Me, personally, I rather like the Orthodox solution and, once Francis is burnt at the stake, I&#039;d be glad to discuss it with his hopefully wiser replacement.  This is that priests may marry, but if they do they will never be promoted past parish priest.  IOW, all the real wealth will stay in hands that have no legal and official descendants to 
pass the pelf on to.  


That also, by the way, gives the local churches more unpaid slave labor in the form of parish wives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celibacy isn&#39;t as universal as that.  There are various eastern rite Catholic churches &#8211; in full communion with Rome, in other words &#8211; where it&#39;s not required.  For that matter, married Anglicans &#8211; presuming they&#39;re among that minority of Anglican clerics who actually, you know, believe in God &#8211; can swim the Tiber and take their wives with them.  </p>
<p>Here&#39;s the thing, celibacy isn&#39;t about purity; it&#39;s about _property_.  There&#39;s a huge amount of potentially transferable wealth in the Church and we don&#39;t want people passing it on to their kids.  </p>
<p>Me, personally, I rather like the Orthodox solution and, once Francis is burnt at the stake, I&#39;d be glad to discuss it with his hopefully wiser replacement.  This is that priests may marry, but if they do they will never be promoted past parish priest.  IOW, all the real wealth will stay in hands that have no legal and official descendants to<br />
pass the pelf on to.  </p>
<p>That also, by the way, gives the local churches more unpaid slave labor in the form of parish wives.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didact,

I&#039;ll add that the Lord himself was rather forthright that &#039;s better to tie a millstone on your neck than to lead a child astray. And this is one of those crimes that cry out to heaven. 
As for celibacy. I&#039;m deeply conflicted. I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll solve the problem but it&#039;s something to look into. The Latin rite can adapt the Eastern rites: parish priests can be married but monks, bishops and higher ups are celibate. If you read Jon Huizinga&#039;s classic The Waning of the Middle ages, you&#039;ll understand why Trent imposed celibacy and incontinence.

Inquisition: sure but man is the original fake news(tm) going to be really tough to overcome. The inquisition will use the juge d&#039;instruction (examining magistrate)  method which it pioneered and not the Anglosphere police invesitage and the republic procsecutes method. As cool as it would be to have an inquistorial police (as in a judicial police in Europe) I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a good idea until  the whole due process is thought out.  I don&#039;t want a Vatican equivalent of the Title IX or human right tribunal abuses. 

The Holy spirit guides the electors and ensures that the CHURCH doesn&#039;t fall into error.  I can easily argue with a straight face that Francis&#039; election could very well be a godsend because the Holy Spirit will use the pedestry scandals for great reforms.  They&#039;ll be as painful as our Lord&#039;s scourging but the  end result will be a revitalized Church that&#039;ll do much to reverse the social justice freakshow and get  back to reality.
I probably won&#039;t see the end but I&#039;m on the ground floor and will do my part however minor to clean the crap out so others can lay the foundations

xavier

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didact,</p>
<p>I&#39;ll add that the Lord himself was rather forthright that &#39;s better to tie a millstone on your neck than to lead a child astray. And this is one of those crimes that cry out to heaven.<br />
As for celibacy. I&#39;m deeply conflicted. I don&#39;t think it&#39;ll solve the problem but it&#39;s something to look into. The Latin rite can adapt the Eastern rites: parish priests can be married but monks, bishops and higher ups are celibate. If you read Jon Huizinga&#39;s classic The Waning of the Middle ages, you&#39;ll understand why Trent imposed celibacy and incontinence.</p>
<p>Inquisition: sure but man is the original fake news(tm) going to be really tough to overcome. The inquisition will use the juge d&#39;instruction (examining magistrate)  method which it pioneered and not the Anglosphere police invesitage and the republic procsecutes method. As cool as it would be to have an inquistorial police (as in a judicial police in Europe) I don&#39;t think that&#39;s a good idea until  the whole due process is thought out.  I don&#39;t want a Vatican equivalent of the Title IX or human right tribunal abuses. </p>
<p>The Holy spirit guides the electors and ensures that the CHURCH doesn&#39;t fall into error.  I can easily argue with a straight face that Francis&#39; election could very well be a godsend because the Holy Spirit will use the pedestry scandals for great reforms.  They&#39;ll be as painful as our Lord&#39;s scourging but the  end result will be a revitalized Church that&#39;ll do much to reverse the social justice freakshow and get  back to reality.<br />
I probably won&#39;t see the end but I&#39;m on the ground floor and will do my part however minor to clean the crap out so others can lay the foundations</p>
<p>xavier</p>
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