Comments on: The INTJ thought process

By: Ninelifedex

Ninelifedex — Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:25:56 +0000

I find it an incurable annoyance, having to carefully prepare my line of reasoning to be consumed by a mildly intelligent audience. This pales to the EXCRUCIATING torture of having to fortify my logic against the battering ram of rote "critical path thinking" … popular arguments used to bypass and undermine the complexity of the root cause and solutions I uncover (extrovert tactical observation: summarizing vs thinking). When trying to democratize the INTJ logic, I think we all are faced with a similar dilemma.

By: Didact

Didact — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:44:14 +0000

In reply to PUMPsix. It gets better with time and experience. The challenge lies in sorting out signal from noise, which gets easier over time once you learn what questions legitimately point to the signal, and what questions merely introduce more noise.

By: Didact

Didact — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:20:07 +0000

In reply to Kapios.

I agree with most of what you are saying but intelligence plays a role here as well

Very true. Intelligence absolutely is a factor, a big one. I didn't bring it up (much) because I don't like bragging about my IQ- mostly because, although I am (by IQ standards) pretty smart, there are far smarter people out there. My IQ registers in the 135 range or so, which is not bad; but there are people who read this blog, and people whose work I read, are FAR smarter than me, in the 150-range.

If your work is highly complicated as you say then chances are that your intelligence trumps those of the average people who look at your reasoning behind the solution to a problem and have an overwhelming feeling of inadequacy and all they can think of is 'Not in a million years I will be able to go through this kind of logical reasoning with my own mind'.

Yep. That happens all the time. The tricky part of my job is not so much the "what" I do- the technical side isn't that hard. The tricky part is explaining it to people in such a way as to avoid making them feel bad. FEELZ, needless to say, is not my strong suit.

By: Kapios

Kapios — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:09:22 +0000

I agree with most of what you are saying but intelligence plays a role here as well. How many times did you find yourself staring at a maths problem and after half an hour and two balls of scrap paper you reached for your phone to get help from a maths 'genius' friend only to tell you 'Dude it's obvious, you have to do blah blah…Duh' (assuming you are not a maths 'genius' yourself).

I'm also a hardcore introvert but I think what you are talking about here has a lot to do with intelligence as well. If your work is highly complicated as you say then chances are that your intelligence trumps those of the average people who look at your reasoning behind the solution to a problem and have an overwhelming feeling of inadequacy and all they can think of is 'Not in a million years I will be able to go through this kind of logical reasoning with my own mind'.

I'm not saying that you don't work hard in order to come up with such solutions, but your frustrations is less likely to stem from your personality trait.

By: PUMPsix

PUMPsix — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:19:52 +0000

In reply to PUMPsix. No, not really. I'm finding it more ensnaring.

By: Didact

Didact — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:27:41 +0000

In reply to PUMPsix. Liberating, is it not? Once you start questioning as much as you can, and you start finding your own answers instead of the ones you were taught, the world suddenly begins to make far more sense because you end up matching theory to observation, instead of attempting to bend the ugly facts to fit the pretty idea.

By: PUMPsix

PUMPsix — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:48:50 +0000

It doesn't mean that I can't parrot back the latest arguments about X subject, though. It just means I don't know how they were developed.

By: PUMPsix

PUMPsix — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:41:08 +0000

This is what I've been working on over the last year. I've pretty much relinquished all of my prior preconceived notions of how the world works and I must say it's rather alleviating. It's probably why I comment more in consent than in intellectual agreement or disagreement.