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		By: Didact		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3619</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Didact]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613&quot;&gt;Unknown&lt;/a&gt;.

Probably The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise by Dario Fernandez-Morena.

I read that one too, last year ))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613">Unknown</a>.</p>
<p>Probably The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise by Dario Fernandez-Morena.</p>
<p>I read that one too, last year ))</p>
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		By: xavier		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3618</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613&quot;&gt;Unknown&lt;/a&gt;.

Didact,

Al andaluz wasn&#039;t the Atlantis on the Mesa , a reading of Mio Cid will dispel that delusion. There was a book written by a Spanish professor at an American University that totally refutes that fairytale. I forget the title  now.

xavier]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613">Unknown</a>.</p>
<p>Didact,</p>
<p>Al andaluz wasn&#39;t the Atlantis on the Mesa , a reading of Mio Cid will dispel that delusion. There was a book written by a Spanish professor at an American University that totally refutes that fairytale. I forget the title  now.</p>
<p>xavier</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Didact]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613&quot;&gt;Unknown&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Emmet Scott&#039;s precis analysis of Pirenne&#039;s findings indicate that the archaeologist himself was a truly remarkable man with an amazing mind and deep insights.

Further analysis and evidence uncovered since Pirenne&#039;s time indicates that just about every supposedly &#034;great city&#034; of Islamic al-Andalus was nothing of the sort.

Imagine Barcelona or Cadiz being the Rotterdam of the Mediterranean back in the Middle ages?

Indeed. And actually that is likely where they would have ended up, had Islam not destroyed that possibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613">Unknown</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Emmet Scott&#39;s precis analysis of Pirenne&#39;s findings indicate that the archaeologist himself was a truly remarkable man with an amazing mind and deep insights.</p>
<p>Further analysis and evidence uncovered since Pirenne&#39;s time indicates that just about every supposedly &quot;great city&quot; of Islamic al-Andalus was nothing of the sort.</p>
<p>Imagine Barcelona or Cadiz being the Rotterdam of the Mediterranean back in the Middle ages?</p>
<p>Indeed. And actually that is likely where they would have ended up, had Islam not destroyed that possibility.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3616</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613&quot;&gt;Unknown&lt;/a&gt;.

Didact,

I have Pirenne&#039;s book in French and it&#039;s one of those awesome erudite books written in elegant 19th century French. It&#039;s really mindblowing . I also have an article of his where he points out that the Dark ages came when Europe&#039;s supply of papyrus was cut off and the monks and state officials had to use vellum and parchment. That was expensive.
Islam also permantly changed  Mediterranean settlement patterns. 
If you look at the coast of Spain, you notice that a lot of Catalan towns have  2 with the same name Villassar/Villassar de Dalt. Dalt means upper aka like up a hill or mountain. Why? 
Because when the Moslem pirates would raid the coasts the inhabitants would flee up the hill/mountain then come down and rebuild their shacks. It literally took Barcelona until the 20th century to  turn and face the sea again. And the results have been rather spectacular. Imagine Barcelona or Cadiz being the Rotterdam of the Mediterranean back in the Middle ages?
xavier]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613">Unknown</a>.</p>
<p>Didact,</p>
<p>I have Pirenne&#39;s book in French and it&#39;s one of those awesome erudite books written in elegant 19th century French. It&#39;s really mindblowing . I also have an article of his where he points out that the Dark ages came when Europe&#39;s supply of papyrus was cut off and the monks and state officials had to use vellum and parchment. That was expensive.<br />
Islam also permantly changed  Mediterranean settlement patterns.<br />
If you look at the coast of Spain, you notice that a lot of Catalan towns have  2 with the same name Villassar/Villassar de Dalt. Dalt means upper aka like up a hill or mountain. Why?<br />
Because when the Moslem pirates would raid the coasts the inhabitants would flee up the hill/mountain then come down and rebuild their shacks. It literally took Barcelona until the 20th century to  turn and face the sea again. And the results have been rather spectacular. Imagine Barcelona or Cadiz being the Rotterdam of the Mediterranean back in the Middle ages?<br />
xavier</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3615</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2015 01:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613&quot;&gt;Unknown&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately, that notion of an Islamic &#034;Golden Age&#034; is still taught as historical fact in most schools. Hell, my own parents believe that nonsense. One of them was a history teacher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3613">Unknown</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that notion of an Islamic &quot;Golden Age&quot; is still taught as historical fact in most schools. Hell, my own parents believe that nonsense. One of them was a history teacher.</p>
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		By: Didact		</title>
		<link>https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3614</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2015 00:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3612&quot;&gt;xh&lt;/a&gt;.

Does it matter?]]></description>
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<p>Does it matter?</p>
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		By: Unknown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have known for years the Islamic &#034;Golden Age,&#034; such as it was, was the work of Christians, Jews and liberal Muslims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have known for years the Islamic &quot;Golden Age,&quot; such as it was, was the work of Christians, Jews and liberal Muslims.</p>
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		By: xh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has vox read this?]]></description>
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		By: Didact		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3610&quot;&gt;Midknight&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting, I&#039;ll have to see if I can find a copy of that book of Mead&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://didacticmind.com/2015/10/unlearning-dark-ages.html#comment-3610">Midknight</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting, I&#39;ll have to see if I can find a copy of that book of Mead&#39;s.</p>
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		By: Midknight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 04:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dammit. Another book to add to the growing pile.

BTW - since you posted on Jacksonianism, &#034;Divine Providence&#034; - which that Jacksonian article is basically a chapter of - is also well worth reading.

Forgotten Man was excellent, as was LIberal Fascism - though Goldberg&#039;s follow-up work wasn&#039;t as good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit. Another book to add to the growing pile.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; since you posted on Jacksonianism, &quot;Divine Providence&quot; &#8211; which that Jacksonian article is basically a chapter of &#8211; is also well worth reading.</p>
<p>Forgotten Man was excellent, as was LIberal Fascism &#8211; though Goldberg&#39;s follow-up work wasn&#39;t as good.</p>
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