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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the thing with diversity - if there is a diversity of IDEAS and approaches, with honest debate, you get a higher chance (as predicted by anti fragility/etc) of solving the problem more optimally. Ditto the &#034;wisdom of crowds&#034;

This of course has nothing to do with testes, ovaries, or skin color (though all are markers of deeper traits which can influence things one way or another. Better or worse is always &#034;for what?&#034; - see disease resistance and genetic diseases by population/etc.)

SJW&#039;s of course assume the latter is always a marker for the former, and are far worse than &#034;conservatives&#034; in believing certain character traits go with a culture, gender, or race (otherwise you&#039;re called oreo or gender traitor/etc...)

Even then , for a possible solution to be trusted, there has to be some trust that the person is indeed &#039;in the same boat&#034; - part of the culture by blood and childhood, or by willingly making hinself over (thus hazing/etc....) to join the social group, having paid a price to do so and earn some respect. Otherwise, the idea is suspect - in part because the skill or competence or knowledge level is not known, or the suspicion of ulterior motives,

Sure, this sometimes means that outsiders get short shrift ( look at how often scientific revolutions came from outsiders to the profession, not blinded by the assumptions of what was possible), but then one should ask why Miami feels more foreign to some than canada.

I&#039;ll give you a clue - it&#039;s not the spanish signs, or more people with darker skin. 

It&#039;s subtle, but always in your face.

Sarah Hoyt once put it that in portuguese and other latin cultures, if there was not at least a token lock or fence, anything not nailed down was fair game. Very different from our background where you could leave your bike out in the front yard of most suburb and rural areas, or basketball, and expect to find it still there later.

Go to miami. Look at the fences and gates - often enough even around the front door stoop so the paper can get tossed onto the front porch and still be inside a gated, secure area. Stores that in other, more northern cities would never check receipts for shoplifting, it&#039;s the norm there.

In attitude and architecture, in corruption, and &#034;I know a cousin&#034; to a degree that even the mob up north doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s very different. 

And since it&#039;s tribal and familial, there is less trust. And it shows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s the thing with diversity &#8211; if there is a diversity of IDEAS and approaches, with honest debate, you get a higher chance (as predicted by anti fragility/etc) of solving the problem more optimally. Ditto the &quot;wisdom of crowds&quot;</p>
<p>This of course has nothing to do with testes, ovaries, or skin color (though all are markers of deeper traits which can influence things one way or another. Better or worse is always &quot;for what?&quot; &#8211; see disease resistance and genetic diseases by population/etc.)</p>
<p>SJW&#39;s of course assume the latter is always a marker for the former, and are far worse than &quot;conservatives&quot; in believing certain character traits go with a culture, gender, or race (otherwise you&#39;re called oreo or gender traitor/etc&#8230;)</p>
<p>Even then , for a possible solution to be trusted, there has to be some trust that the person is indeed &#39;in the same boat&quot; &#8211; part of the culture by blood and childhood, or by willingly making hinself over (thus hazing/etc&#8230;.) to join the social group, having paid a price to do so and earn some respect. Otherwise, the idea is suspect &#8211; in part because the skill or competence or knowledge level is not known, or the suspicion of ulterior motives,</p>
<p>Sure, this sometimes means that outsiders get short shrift ( look at how often scientific revolutions came from outsiders to the profession, not blinded by the assumptions of what was possible), but then one should ask why Miami feels more foreign to some than canada.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll give you a clue &#8211; it&#39;s not the spanish signs, or more people with darker skin. </p>
<p>It&#39;s subtle, but always in your face.</p>
<p>Sarah Hoyt once put it that in portuguese and other latin cultures, if there was not at least a token lock or fence, anything not nailed down was fair game. Very different from our background where you could leave your bike out in the front yard of most suburb and rural areas, or basketball, and expect to find it still there later.</p>
<p>Go to miami. Look at the fences and gates &#8211; often enough even around the front door stoop so the paper can get tossed onto the front porch and still be inside a gated, secure area. Stores that in other, more northern cities would never check receipts for shoplifting, it&#39;s the norm there.</p>
<p>In attitude and architecture, in corruption, and &quot;I know a cousin&quot; to a degree that even the mob up north doesn&#39;t, it&#39;s very different. </p>
<p>And since it&#39;s tribal and familial, there is less trust. And it shows.</p>
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