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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just catching up with the manosphere, but I recognized a lot of the issues before noticing it. Dr. Helen is doing a good job. I&#039;ve also got some good material up at my site,  jebkinnison.com. And I wrote what one of my early reviewers said was a &#034;red pill&#034; book at dating and relationships. I thought he was talking about &#034;The Matrix.&#034;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m just catching up with the manosphere, but I recognized a lot of the issues before noticing it. Dr. Helen is doing a good job. I&#39;ve also got some good material up at my site,  jebkinnison.com. And I wrote what one of my early reviewers said was a &quot;red pill&quot; book at dating and relationships. I thought he was talking about &quot;The Matrix.&quot;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 22:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disclaimer: I am neither a historian nor a psychiatrist.

I resist the notion that Genghis Khan was a psychopath or sociopath.  He might have been a homicidal maniac.  He might have been sane (but still a mass murderer).  If mass murder were enough to qualify as a sociopath, there would be a lot of soldiers accused of sociopathy.

Genghis Khan and Cesare Borgia cared a great deal about the strength of their social power base.  They wanted strong armies. They cared about the strength and health of their subordinates.  This runs contrary to your text: &#034;Sociopaths aren&#039;t interested in mutual benefit. They care only about their own benefit ...

Sociopathy also makes them utterly uninterested in actions that are of benefit to the wider society...&#034;

A megalomaniacal leader like Borgia *does* have a sense of mutual benefit - each of his soldiers gets a small benefit, and Borgia himself gets a big benefit.  It&#039;s not necessarily justice, but it is mutual benefit.

Sociopathy in power is a huge problem, but let&#039;s not gloss over history.  The average sociopath in power probably looks like Lon Horiuchi or Lynndie England, not like Cesare Borgia or Genghis Khan.

I think you&#039;ve hit upon an important line of research, but I would encourage you to get expert advice on the definitions of &#034;sociopath&#034; and &#034;narcissist.&#034;  Dr. Helen might be better-educated than Heartiste, but Heartiste is better at pulling in a broad audience and getting publicity.  Now, if we could persuade Dr. Helen to study the character of Genghis Khan, we might elicit a truly expert opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer: I am neither a historian nor a psychiatrist.</p>
<p>I resist the notion that Genghis Khan was a psychopath or sociopath.  He might have been a homicidal maniac.  He might have been sane (but still a mass murderer).  If mass murder were enough to qualify as a sociopath, there would be a lot of soldiers accused of sociopathy.</p>
<p>Genghis Khan and Cesare Borgia cared a great deal about the strength of their social power base.  They wanted strong armies. They cared about the strength and health of their subordinates.  This runs contrary to your text: &quot;Sociopaths aren&#39;t interested in mutual benefit. They care only about their own benefit &#8230;</p>
<p>Sociopathy also makes them utterly uninterested in actions that are of benefit to the wider society&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>A megalomaniacal leader like Borgia *does* have a sense of mutual benefit &#8211; each of his soldiers gets a small benefit, and Borgia himself gets a big benefit.  It&#39;s not necessarily justice, but it is mutual benefit.</p>
<p>Sociopathy in power is a huge problem, but let&#39;s not gloss over history.  The average sociopath in power probably looks like Lon Horiuchi or Lynndie England, not like Cesare Borgia or Genghis Khan.</p>
<p>I think you&#39;ve hit upon an important line of research, but I would encourage you to get expert advice on the definitions of &quot;sociopath&quot; and &quot;narcissist.&quot;  Dr. Helen might be better-educated than Heartiste, but Heartiste is better at pulling in a broad audience and getting publicity.  Now, if we could persuade Dr. Helen to study the character of Genghis Khan, we might elicit a truly expert opinion.</p>
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